HB 1357: Right to Work Repeal Act of 2018 (Passed) (user search)
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Pragmatic Conservative
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« on: January 04, 2019, 01:13:53 PM »

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Sponsor: Jimmy7812
House Designation: HB 1357
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 08:51:19 PM »

Can the sponsor please explain his issue with this amendment and why he seems to believe that individuals should be required to join a union as a condition of employment. This amendment very simply moves up the implementation date (the current implementation date has passed) and gives workers a choice on whether they want to join a union. No person should feel compelled to join an organization that is unnecessary to be a part of.
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Pragmatic Conservative
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2019, 07:45:49 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 03:38:55 PM »

Jimmy7812's amendment has been adopted. The bill currently stands as:

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2019, 09:13:43 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2019, 09:15:28 PM »

What about "administrative purposes"? Why should agency fees not be used for administrative purposes?
Administrative purposes could count as wages and bonuses for the board of directors and president of the union. Individuals shouldn’t be forced to subsidize bonuses for these individuals.
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Pragmatic Conservative
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2019, 11:07:46 PM »

If you're going to force people to join a union, and argue that unions are good for the workers, why are you people defending their ability to use their funds on things that dont help the workers?

This is a more than reasonable amendment, and just proved how anti-worker the Atlasian left is.

Once again, the amendment is written in a way that it prohibits even one worker’s payments going to administrative costs unless every other worker also agrees with it.



If even one worker objects to their dues being used to pay for ridiculous things like political donations and lobbying, that is one too many, especially when you want to force them to join the union or face unemployment.

If you guys really cared about workers, you wouldn't be pushing for this bill at all, and the left wing representatives certainly would have at least supported the amendment.

I guess it's fair to say the name "Labor" party doesn't mean what it implies.

If worker A isn’t okay with their dues being used for political purposes, then I agree, those dues shouldn’t be used for that. But why should that prevent worker B’s dues from being used for political purposes if they are okay with it?

Why allow unions to do it in the first place if it doesn't actually help the workers?

What, you want to ban unions from political activity completely?
Unions can still fundraise money outside of raising dues to engage in political activities.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 11:18:08 PM »

I object to the motion for a final vote. Debate is obviously still active and it would be inappropriate to rush to a final vote at this point.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 12:46:13 AM »

Jimmy7812's amendment has been adopted. The bill currently stands as:

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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2019, 04:20:26 PM »

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