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Pragmatic Conservative
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« on: March 05, 2017, 03:20:06 PM »

Can we please at least debate the merits of this proposal before shelving it. This proposal is intended as a general framework for a unicameral legislature, with the intent of massaging out the details of the proposal in this debate. Enduro can you also please state your reasons for this amendment and not just that you think it is a stupid idea.     
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Pragmatic Conservative
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2017, 03:33:35 PM »

First off this is intended as an amendment to the constitution not just a simple house resolution. 

The intent of this amendment is to return Atlasia to a unicameral system of government from  the current bicameral system of government. As many of you know Atlasia had a single legislative body for much of its time, before having the Federal Senate replaced with a two tired system. While I respect the attempt at bicameralism; it is clear that after 9 months that the system is fundamentally flawed and needlessly complex. Currently we see the federal congress plagued with gridlock;bills sit for literally months being thrown around for moths between the two houses slowing down the whole legislative process. I also challenge the assertion that it is a lack of strong leadership that is the sole problem; we have had multiple House Speakers, Senate PPT, Senators, Reps, and the same problems keep occurring. 
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Pragmatic Conservative
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2017, 03:42:34 PM »

Can we please at least debate the merits of this proposal before shelving it. This proposal is intended as a general framework for a unicameral legislature, with the intent of massaging out the details of the proposal in this debate. Enduro can you also please state your reasons for this amendment and not just that you think it is a stupid idea.     

Bicameralism can work, we just need leadership like Yankee. We have Yankee as leadership, it's going to start working. Also, unicameral  would be a step back in the evolution of the game. This game needs to keep trying new things, making them work, and moving to the next new thing. We can't try a new thing, and go back to the it was before because we didn't try hard enough.

One more thing, despite the bill's failure, you can still debate the idea. Start a thread in AFE.
I don't see change as inherently good or bad, change is change, and really I see no point for change for change sake. Their were not inherent structural problems with the old system, instead all we got for a unnecessary change was a new set of problems that have crippled the game. Sometimes I think ideas are proposed that sound great in theory, like bicameralism in Atlasia but simply aren't practice for the game. I don't consider it a step back, by going back to a unicameral legislature, but instead the opportunity to improve the flow of the game.
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Pragmatic Conservative
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2017, 10:40:19 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2017, 05:56:01 PM by Representative 1184AZ »

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Sponsor: Representative 1184AZ
House Designation: HR 1083-Make the Atlasia Federal Goverment more efficient Amendment
I offer the following ammendment to balance the classes
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Pragmatic Conservative
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 12:11:39 PM »

I second the motion for a final vote on this ammendment.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2017, 08:59:59 PM »

Aye
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