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Kingpoleon
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« on: July 25, 2021, 01:23:36 AM »

It is interesting that you focus on the Democrats to be the responsible party (and I don't necessarily agree that the issues behind 'wokeness' aren't serious) rather than telling the Republicans to be responsible and stop focusing on voter suppression and endless virtue signaling on abortion.  After all, in West Virginia anyway these are mostly all Republican voters.
The liberal nonsense about virtue signaling on abortion indicates a fundamental inability to grasp why so many rural and poor people oppose abortion. It is not because they are idiots, but because they see through the veneer of a certain cosmopolitan bipartisan neoliberalism which refuses to understand that judging humans on the basis of development is evil social Darwinism.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2021, 01:42:04 AM »

We've been over this before, and I explained to you quite clearly that development is not the only reason why a fetus doesn't qualify as human. You can stop kicking the strawman now.
I apologize, but post liberal communitarians and eccentric classical liberals are almost certainly incapable of even sharing a moral language, in no small part due to the latter’s rejection of The Good.

Nevertheless, as I recall you brought up two points: the first is dependency, in which humanity and dependency are exclusive. The ontology of the two are such that I fail to grasp how they can be exclusive unless by human we mean an independent human, and unfortunately for liberals, there is no such thing. “All men are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.” (Dr. King) If this were true, those farmers you are dependent upon for life could logically kill you as you are dependent upon them. At the very least, parents could kill an infant which is utterly dependent upon them.

The second was something such as self awareness and a sense of pain, which develop over time in degree but not in kind. This does not save you, either, from being able to justify why we should not kill a baby born at 20 weeks but it should be legal to kill a baby unborn at 24 weeks.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2021, 10:18:31 AM »

I'll be very pleasantly surprised if I ever see Kingpoleon and Dule in the same thread without being at loggerheads over the entire foundation of their moral philosophies.
1. We began our frenemyship about Fuzzy, on which we agreed.

2. Classical liberalism may be a philosophy, but it can hardly be called a moral one.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2021, 05:40:53 PM »

HOLY CRAP A POLITICIAN SAID SOMETHING DUMB/OUT OF TOUCH!!!! We're gonna need at least four pages of GMac effortposts and Kingpoleon non sequiturs to really get this issued settled.
Premises need not reach one’s conclusions; indeed, almost everybody uses prior conclusions to reach their premises.
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