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Question: Who would you vote for?
#1
CDU/CSU
 
#2
SPD
 
#3
Die Linke (The Left)
 
#4
AfD
 
#5
FDP
 
#6
Greens
 
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Total Voters: 98

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Kingpoleon
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« on: June 19, 2017, 02:23:05 PM »

1. FDP
2. Greens
3. CDU
4. SPD
5. CSU

The AfD and Die Linke are despicable.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 02:28:03 PM »

Why do you so commonly support centrist parties?? Are you an avowed "incrementalist" like MAINEiac?
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2017, 03:17:56 PM »

Why do you so commonly support centrist parties?? Are you an avowed "incrementalist" like MAINEiac?

I was a naive left-leftist 10-15 years ago, but became more centrist over the years, yeah.

Centrism is the way forward, so I will back those parties with common-sense policies, except for people like Hillary Clinton, who are frauds.

Shouldn't you change your PM score?

Interesting thought ... I have not updated this thing for probably 10 years.

But this "PM" score is about US questions anyway from what I remember.

It is rather confusing, especially considering your support for Sanders.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2017, 07:07:33 PM »

Fortunately, I have more options on my ballot than these listed in the poll. If you don't know it already, I'm going to vote for the Free Voters (Freie Wähler).

Some things I find appalling about the major German parties:
CDU/CSU: unwilling to undertake major reforms
SPD: hypocritical and uninspiring
Die Linke: have some real nutjob politicians, but the more moderate reformist types are okayish
B90/Die Grünen: out of touch with the common people, no culture of open debate within the party
FDP: big-business lobbying organization
AfD: isolation won't get us anywhere
Really? You prefer Die Linke to the FDP and the Greens? I thought you were more of a Free Voters person who, of the bigger parties, prefers FDP.

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Yeah, Germany stopped doing that in the 1940s.

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Not all of them. It's more, in my opinion, the usual divide between Christian democrats and European liberals. The former are generally considered more right-wing because they are more populist or communitarian in ideology, which generally indicates not being overly centrist.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 03:59:59 PM »

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Not all of them. It's more, in my opinion, the usual divide between Christian democrats and European liberals. The former are generally considered more right-wing because they are more populist or communitarian in ideology, which generally indicates not being overly centrist.

Communitarianism as understood by Christian Democracy involves a centrist position as a third way alternative to liberal individualism and socialist collectivism.  And when they have called themselves "popular" parties, it means they aim to be parties of all social classes rather than pitting one against the other.

Of course. I didn't intend to contend that the FDP isn't economically to the right of the CDU/CSU, just not by quite as much as is usually suggested. On social issues such as gay marriage, the FDP is clearly to their left.
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