Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[Kingpoleon]

If these s***ty bills keep getting proposed with no changes, I will start saying "F*** it. Keep damn Obamacare"

For the love of God, GOP, get a good bill

The FPA of 2017 is the only bill I've seen any GOP members propose that isn't ridiculous.

[Kingpoleon]

In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if, a year from now, a large percentage of the electorate won't even be able to correctly answer a poll question on whether Obamacare has been repealed or not.

Yeah, weren't there polls back in like 2014 saying that a majority (or significant chunk) of Republicans thought Obamacare had already been repealed?

Well 30% of the country thought Obama was a Muslim terrorist, and 30% of the country now thinks that Russians changed the results of the election.

Literally changed votes, or changed the outcome of the election? The CIA agrees with the latter.

(I know this is old, but...)

The CIA also thought there were WMDs in Iraq.

[Kingpoleon]

I wish she, Murkowski, and McCain would write a bill. If they’re gonna shoot it down, I would like to see their (most likely better) alternative, all three of them.

They'd probably support the Alexander-Murray bipartisan bill.

Cassidy-Collins, Alexander-Murray, Wyden-Bennett... There are plenty of solid replacements, including the proposals of Kasich and Hickenlooper. I think the Democrats they can get over will be Wyden, Murray, Cantwell, and probably the Romney state Democrats. That's eight votes right there, which would allow them to sacrifice the votes of Cotton, Lee, Moore/Strange, Cornyn, Paul, and Cruz. Tillis and Hatch  are the ones I'm not sure would support it. I have no idea about the Plain Six Senators - Fischer, Sasse, Moran, Roberts, Inhofe, and Lankford. However, I think that with McConnell pulling for it, those last eight would support it.

[Kingpoleon]

CBO says Alexander-Murray would reduce the deficit by $4B over 10 years.  That may not seem like much, but they estimate that NOT funding CSRs would increase the deficit by $194B.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/357091-cbo-bipartisan-deal-would-reduce-deficit-by-4-billion

Wyden-Bennet was supposed to reduce the deficit by something like $40 billion, IIRC.

[Kingpoleon]

Someone please unsticky this dead thread. Potential repeal of the individual mandate is being addressed in the also-stickied tax cut thread, and no one has posted here in about 7 weeks.

Let it go, please.

No, this thread must remain stickied until Republicans give up on their dream of committing mass murder on millions of Americans.

Disagree.  We don't need to keep threads stickied that aren't going to get any comments for like a month or two.  Then they're just a waste of space.  If it comes back in the news, and there's more for people to talk about, then it can be re-stickied.  Or better yet, should that happen, start a new thread.  This one's almost at 2000 replies as it is, so it's close to being ready to be locked anyway.  If a new health care push happened now, it should get a brand new thread, rather than letting this zombie thread stumble forward.

EDIT: I mean, for those saying "I don't trust the GOP to not bring it up again", you do realize that this thread being stickied or not has zero impact on what actually happens in Congress, right?  It's not like you're going to stop the GOP agenda based on which threads show up in this forum.

The safe thing to do is assume what we do does have an effect in Congress. I do think this forum has a lot more publicity than people think, and would not be surprised if prominent elected officials ate signed up here under pseudonyms.

Is Atlas the reason you will resign, Al?