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Kingpoleon
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« on: March 11, 2017, 09:04:48 PM »

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–50)
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2017, 10:57:10 PM »

It is at least partially due to it being the end of World War II, since one way Germany was punished was through the removal of its territory. Probably because muh Nazis, uprooting millions of ordinary people from their ancestral homelands and forcing them out was seen as less immoral. Germany of course deserved punishment for World War II, though I think too much territory was taken (i.e. giving Poland land it hadn't had for almost 1,000 years) and there shouldn't have been so many people forced out.
Is it ever right to evict an ethnic group?

The German population, in what had formerly been Prussia, was nearly destroyed. An entire culture was wiped out. The remnants of Prussian culture was dissolved in East Germany, which obviously had a culture that was the complete opposite of Prussian. The scapegoating of Germany in WWI may have been the main cause of tens of millions of deaths and more forced migrations.

I think the reasons why it's ignored are rather obvious and understandable. That doesn't make it any less bad, of course.
Though I normally consider myself understanding, the largest forced migration in all of European history is, strangely, hard for me to understand.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 11:18:54 AM »

It isn't ignored.

It has been frequently (mis)used by German national-conservatives and neo-Nazis for the past 70 years as proof that the Germans were in fact the victims of World War II and not perpetrators (and if they were perpetrators, they were just as bad ones as the Allies) and that these territories must be therefore given back.

In the past two decades or so this has been a changed a bit, since a number of non-revisionist, mainstream novels, movies, and TV miniseries came out in Germany as well dealing with the subject in a more tasteful and non-nationalist manner.

In America, it most certainly is ignored.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 01:52:17 PM »

Given what the Nazis did to my country, I see territorial changes as absolutely justified (especially given the last we simultaneously lost in the east). Significant part of these territories also had strong historical-demographic links to Poland all that time. We've been screwed enough since 1939, so leaving us as a rump state... come on.

Term "genocide" indirectly implies these events being in the same league as Nazi genocide during the war, which is both idiotic and outright offensive.

And, for the record, I wish we could settle this without massive forced migration, but you have to remember this was just after the bloody World War II.

Perhaps I'm being insensitive, but the destruction of a culture, virtual enslavement of at least 500,000 Germans, and the largest forced migration in European history strikes me as something that needs to be discussed. Just because the victors write history doesn't mean we can ignore their flaws.
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