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mvd10
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« on: October 28, 2017, 09:23:23 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 02:15:57 PM »

Every single day, the problems in America show us why nation-states function better.

America is a nation-state though?

Anyway, if he is concerned about people being poor, then presumably he should be a member of a different party to VVD

Aren't you confusing David with me? I'm a VVD member but I've never heard anything about David being a VVD member. He didn't even vote VVD in the 2017 elections (and probably also not in elections in 2012, 2014 and 2015 but I'm not so sure about that).

Being a member of a centre-right party in the Netherlands is somewhat compatible with being concerned about the rough edges of the American system imo, but that's another discussion Tongue (but I definitely don't buy the "Bernie/Democrats would be centre-right in Europe" theory, and I generally still back the right in America so you're probably right).
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 02:58:46 PM »

Every single day, the problems in America show us why nation-states function better.

America is a nation-state though?

Anyway, if he is concerned about people being poor, then presumably he should be a member of a different party to VVD

Aren't you confusing David with me? I'm a VVD member but I've never heard anything about David being a VVD member. He didn't even vote VVD in the 2017 elections (and probably also not in elections in 2012, 2014 and 2015 but I'm not so sure about that).

Being a member of a centre-right party in the Netherlands is somewhat compatible with being concerned about the rough edges of the American system imo, but that's another discussion Tongue (but I definitely don't buy the "Bernie/Democrats would be centre-right in Europe" theory, and I generally still back the right in America so you're probably right).

The original quote was a Dutch politician, just because you cheese munchers all look the same doesn't mean I can't tell you apart Wink

Ah, that explains it. I though you referred to David's quote about the nation state functioning better (he also wrote something about the nation state and the welfare state in a different topic and I thought you referred to those quotes). But I think Zijlstra wasn't specifically referring to poor people with poorer. He probably was referring to the negative consequences of European countries not defending their own interests (poorer, dumber and weaker aren't to be taken literally). That's my interpretation.
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