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mvd10
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« on: July 30, 2017, 12:18:41 PM »

How is the Netherlands being governed by the right? We currently have a centrist grand coalition between centre-right conservative liberals (VVD) and centre-left social democrats (PvdA). It's obvious that the VVD had much more influence on government policy than the PvdA (even though the VVD was only slightly bigger than the PvdA after the 2012 elections) but I wouldn't really call it a centre-right coalition.

We currently are in the process of government negotiations and it looks like we're heading towards either a VVD-CDA-D66-CU coalition (though we still may very well end up with a minority coalition of VVD-CDA-D66). I guess VVD-CDA-D66-CU would be a centre-right coalition but it only has a 1-seat majority and we shouldn't underestimate the more left-wing factions of CU (Christian left) and D66 (social liberals). The right did win a majority in the parliamentary elections but VVD and CDA don't want to work with the PVV.
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mvd10
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2017, 04:59:09 PM »

How is the Netherlands being governed by the right? We currently have a centrist grand coalition between centre-right conservative liberals (VVD) and centre-left social democrats (PvdA). It's obvious that the VVD had much more influence on government policy than the PvdA (even though the VVD was only slightly bigger than the PvdA after the 2012 elections) but I wouldn't really call it a centre-right coalition.

Well I think you're overreacting to what is a loose interpretation of politics, but compared to other social democratic family members in Western Europe, I would rank the Dutch PvdA as the most neo-liberal.  At least the other parties still have links to the major trade unions and a semblance of a left-wing faction within them. Monasch got exiled from the party, and the race was between the Beavis and Butthead of left-liberal, fratboy politics. No major differences in economic policy.

Then you have Dijsselbloem's comments...

Technically Samsom was supposed to finally end Bos/Kok-style third-way politics within the PvdA when he first got elected. Oh, how things change Tongue. Like I said the VVD definitely had a disproportionate influence in government policy (even though people thought the PvdA got a better deal in the first few months of the new cabinet, people forget that) and the PvdA probably is among the most austerity-friendly social democratic parties but since OP considers Merkel a leftist who just opposes gay marriage and thinks the Austrian grand coalition is left-wing I don't really think he would consider the previous Dutch government as right-wing.

As for Dijsselbloem: yeah. I would probably welcome him in the VVD Tongue. But even Dijsselbloem has been shifting to the left lately. There was some minor controversy about Asscher wanting to raise corporate tax rates while Dijsselbloem actually voiced support for lower corporate tax rates a couple of months earlier. Dijsselbloem now supports Asscher's line on corporate taxes and he has repeatedly said that employers should raise wages in order to stimulate consumption. And bashing Southern Europe is just popular in the Netherlands I guess (Rutte promising to veto any new Greece bailout, which he ofcourse didn't).
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