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mvd10
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« on: May 08, 2017, 07:31:25 AM »

-United Kingdom: Brexit Remain
-United States: Presidential Hillary Clinton
-The Netherlands: Legislature VVD
-France: Presidential Fillon/Macron
-United Kingdom: Legislature Conservative party
-France: Legislature Les Republicains
-Germany: Legislature Really don't know yet
-Italy: Legislature Democratic Party
-Austria: Legislature ÖVP
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mvd10
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 07:20:02 AM »

-United Kingdom: Brexit: Remain

-United States: Presidential: Democrat

-The Netherlands: Legislature: D66

-France: Presidential: PS

-United Kingdom: Legislature: Swing Labour/Lib Dem, any thing really to try to keep the Tories out

-France: Legislature: En Marche

-Germany: Legislature: SDP

-Italy: Legislature: PD

-Austria: Legislature: Grünen

Why Hamon in France and D66 in the Netherlands? Hamon/GreenLeft or Macron/D66 make more sense to me.
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mvd10
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2017, 08:59:14 AM »

-United Kingdom: Brexit Remain
-United States: Presidential Hillary Clinton
-The Netherlands: Legislature VVD
-France: Presidential Fillon/Macron
-United Kingdom: Legislature Conservative party Whatever fringe libertarian party is available
-France: Legislature Les Republicains
-Germany: Legislature Really don't know yet FDP
-Italy: Legislature Democratic Party
-Austria: Legislature ÖVP

Not supporting the Tories after May's shameless rejection of Thatcherism (and her authoritorian internet surveillance proposal also played a role). We need a small Tory majority so Thatcherite backbenchers can block some of her more leftist proposals.

I also decided to endorse the FDP in Germany.

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mvd10
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 01:41:14 PM »
« Edited: May 23, 2017, 01:52:43 PM by mvd10 »

-United Kingdom: Brexit Remain
-United States: Presidential Hillary Clinton
-The Netherlands: Legislature VVD
-France: Presidential Fillon/Macron
-United Kingdom: Legislature Conservative party Whatever fringe libertarian party is available
-France: Legislature Les Republicains
-Germany: Legislature Really don't know yet FDP
-Italy: Legislature Democratic Party
-Austria: Legislature ÖVP

Not supporting the Tories after May's shameless rejection of Thatcherism (and her authoritorian internet surveillance proposal also played a role). We need a small Tory majority so Thatcherite backbenchers can block some of her more leftist proposals.

I also decided to endorse the FDP in Germany.

I don't really get a LR/Hillary/Remain voter who wants to vote for a fringe libertarian party in the United Kingdom. Hillary is quite a bit to the left of May, the Conservatives, and many Liberal Democrats.

I would have voted for Hillary mainly because Trump is a total disaster and he would pull the Republican party in the wrong direction (he isn't getting any conservative legislation I care about passed anyway). I would have voted for most Republicans over Hillary. I would have voted Remain because Brexit will be a total trainwreck. And I would have voted LR because there isn't really anything better in France (though I guess the same applies to the Tories in the UK). And atleast they want to take France in the right direction. Fillon's economic program was really ambitious.

Theresa May wants to turn the Tories in a pre-Thatcher One Nation Conservative party. Energy price cap, not ruling out income tax hikes, saying she doesn't believe in unfettered free markets and stuff like that. And her proposal to heavily regulate the internet also is terrible. I can afford a protest vote here because May will win anyway, but the smaller her majority the better. I don't want her to transform the Conservative party in a Mayist party.

I'm basically a fiscally conservative socially liberal™ ''get of my porn internet'' type who doesn't really care about immigration. I'm probably a lot more pro-EU than your average Atlas right-winger even though I definitely wouldn't call myself an Europhile.
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mvd10
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2017, 12:11:11 AM »

But you do concede May's economics are well to the right of Hillary's?

I would argue to you that Corbyn is twice the threat to liberal democracy than Trump ever has been. Trump spoke for a group of people that were hurting - Corbyn speaks for a group of radicals who wish to overthrow an order, not because of pain, but for the sake of radicalism.

Yeah. I don't do the "Democrats would be extremely right-wing in Europe" thing. Most of the Tories would be Republicans in the US. It's just that I don't want May to take the Tories in her direction. And if the election were really close I'd probably vote for her to keep Corbyn out, but even after the Labour surge she still is ahead by 9-12 points so I can afford a protest vote here.

I don't really agree that Corbyn is a big threat to liberal democracy. He's a nutjob, but the vast majority of Labour MP's disagrees with him and if he wins he won't win a big majority so he'll likely do no damage. And like AA said, the PM of the UK will never be as much as a threat to liberal democracy as the POTUS. And it's not like May is that great with her internet proposal and muh strong and stable.
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mvd10
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E: 2.58, S: -2.61

« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2017, 03:22:21 PM »

-United Kingdom: Brexit Remain
-United States: Presidential Hillary Clinton
-The Netherlands: Legislature VVD
-France: Presidential Fillon/Macron
-United Kingdom: Legislature Conservative party Whatever fringe libertarian party is available
-France: Legislature Les Republicains
-Germany: Legislature Really don't know yet FDP
-Italy: Legislature Democratic Party
-Austria: Legislature ÖVP

Not supporting the Tories after May's shameless rejection of Thatcherism (and her authoritorian internet surveillance proposal also played a role). We need a small Tory majority so Thatcherite backbenchers can block some of her more leftist proposals.

I also decided to endorse the FDP in Germany.

In what bizarro alternate reality are you living? Huh

A world where free markets are more important for right-wingers than bashing foreigners (yeah, it probably is a bizarro alternate reality Sad). And don't underestimate the hatred I feel towards May (I suddenly understand the coal miners...).

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mvd10
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E: 2.58, S: -2.61

« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2017, 05:32:58 AM »

-United Kingdom: Brexit Pro-Brexit
-United States: Presidential Donald Trump
-The Netherlands: Legislature VVD/PVV
-France: Presidential Marine Le Pen
-United Kingdom: Legislature Conservative
-France: Legislature National Front
-Germany: Legislature CDU/AfD
-Italy: Legislature M5S
-Austria: Legislature Team Stronach
-United Kingdom: Brexit Pro-Brexit
-United States: Presidential Donald Trump
-The Netherlands: Legislature VVD/PVV
-France: Presidential Marine Le Pen
-United Kingdom: Legislature Conservative
-France: Legislature National Front
-Germany: Legislature FDP
-Italy: Legislature M5S
-Austria: Legislature Team Stronach

Changed my pick in Germany.

A FDP/Conservative/VVD voter shouldn't be voting for Le Pen.

Voting Tory under May and Le Pen isn't really that incompatible imo, especially since UKIP only got 2% of the vote.
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