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« on: October 03, 2016, 03:01:31 PM »

As a follow-up to the question of whether voting for a third-party candidate in a safe state is justified, here's a nice map of where one could vote third-party and have no qualms about how that might affect the outcome even in a close race:



That's most of the country.  And if you have an election where even the third-party candidates are unacceptable (as we do now), then obviously the write-in option is available in, I think, just about every state.

I don't expect this to affect anyone's position either way, but it does speak volumes about how absurd and outdated the electoral college system is.

ME-1 should be gray, since people's votes there still affect the at large EVs.
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2016, 04:39:23 PM »

I'm also in Massachusetts, and I have several reasons for voting for Clinton, but the one that would most likely apply to Nathan would be the fact that I don't want Trumpists to be able to use the "we really won the popular vote" excuse. Of course, they probably will say that anyway, but it would have greater effect if it's true. I also don't want to reward the Greens or Libertarians by giving them a higher percentage of the vote, which they would if I didn't vote.

That said, I think it's wrong to attack Nathan as a terrible person over this, since he's in a safe state. If he were in Iowa I would get it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2016, 01:39:16 PM »

A lot of Stein supporters seem to have this idea that Stein would win in a landslide if only we had a fair voting system. That's not the case. Stein is a terrible candidate and would lose badly under any remotely reasonable voting system.
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