Should New York City ban Columbus Day?

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Yea, cos' this is #1 issue in this country, this issue is so important.

TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.

Exactly. And besides, the sooner we can get Columbus Day renamed, the sooner we can move on to more important issues after about a week of impotent conservative and racist tears. Simply putting off issues like this until later won't work unless everyone is on board with doing that.

Yea, cos' this is #1 issue in this country, this issue is so important.

TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.

Yea you're right, however many social liberal and progressives make this issue and other feminist SJW issues on the headline focusing issues on un-needed conversation of social issues, instead of a real economic conversation and conversation on economic issues and fighting corruption.

Uh, social issues are pretty important for people who aren't white, male, cisgender, sraight, etc.

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Whatever white activists might say, the case against Columbus Day isn't aimed at the particular actions of Cristoforo Colombo. The case against Columbus Day is aimed at the fact that he's an unambiguous symbol of the conquest of the indigenous peoples of the Americas, many of whom are American citizens, who deserve a modicum of respect. Again, America is a "multi-nation" state, which is composed of non-indigenous people and various indigenous peoples. This holiday effectively celebrates the forcibly conquest of the later, which is pretty repulsive. Columbus Day simply can't be reconciled with American commitments to the Nez Pearce or the Shoshone or the Crow etc.

Columbus Day controversies may be symbolic but sometimes symbols matter and the attachment to this particular symbol represents the insidious ways that many Americans view the original cultures of this continent, who are either romanticized or treated as barbarians in need of civilizations. They're still alive.

Is Thanksgiving a problem then?

Thanksgiving is basically just an excuse to have a big meal at this point. I don't quite understand why it's associated with Plymouth, considering that Lincoln started it.

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Yea, cos' this is #1 issue in this country, this issue is so important.

TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.

Exactly. And besides, the sooner we can get Columbus Day renamed, the sooner we can move on to more important issues after about a week of impotent conservative and racist tears. Simply putting off issues like this until later won't work unless everyone is on board with doing that.

Yes keep figthing the good cause, ignore all those people who suffer from real problems which could be dealt with instead.

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TBH, it's pretty annoying when people dismiss some issues as irrelevant because apparently, there are other issues that require more attention. If we only focused on the one/few issues that you deem most important, everything else would go very poorly. Managing a government properly involves addressing all things that can be improved, not merely dismissing those deemed minor just because they are thought of as such. Just because Columbus Day isn't the most pressing issue in modern society, that doesn't mean we should dismiss the issue completely for no good reason.

Yea you're right, however many social liberal and progressives make this issue and other feminist SJW issues on the headline focusing issues on un-needed conversation of social issues, instead of a real economic conversation and conversation on economic issues and fighting corruption.
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Uh, social issues are pretty important for people who aren't white, male, cisgender, sraight, etc.[/quote]

As all the groups who aren't White straight cisgender ablebody Anglo-Saxon Protestant make up a rather clear majority of the American electorate (even if we only include the people who votes), it clearly not "pretty important" to all those people.
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Did we have a referendum on this while I wasn't looking?

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Any holiday which doesn't uplift a POC and create a safe space for them should be outlawed.

Hopefully, eventually science can even narrow down whiteness by melanin count, and sterilize those below a certain melanin count

Look, I hate SWJs too but Columbus was a murdering, slave owning pedophile who's only accomplishment was getting lost and accidentally discovering an already inhabited Dominican Republic. There is no reason for him to have a holiday.

I honestly have no real horse in the race but, if something pisses off SJW's, I'll support it. I was raised with the rhyme "In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue", and I'm fine with it remaining that way.

Man, you really have it out for SJW's. Did one of them  your girlfriend or something?

No, but they're trying to turn my country into a craphole. They're not my countrymen. I'm a white "cis" male, so, of course, in their eyes, I'm evil.

I'm a white cis male SJW, and I don't consider myself evil.

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Any holiday which doesn't uplift a POC and create a safe space for them should be outlawed.

Hopefully, eventually science can even narrow down whiteness by melanin count, and sterilize those below a certain melanin count

Look, I hate SWJs too but Columbus was a murdering, slave owning pedophile who's only accomplishment was getting lost and accidentally discovering an already inhabited Dominican Republic. There is no reason for him to have a holiday.

I honestly have no real horse in the race but, if something pisses off SJW's, I'll support it. I was raised with the rhyme "In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue", and I'm fine with it remaining that way.

Man, you really have it out for SJW's. Did one of them  your girlfriend or something?

No, but they're trying to turn my country into a craphole. They're not my countrymen. I'm a white "cis" male, so, of course, in their eyes, I'm evil.

I'm a white cis male SJW, and I don't consider myself evil.

You should. After all, you were born with the original sin of white privilege. You have to make amends for it.

Everyone is privileged in one way or another. It doesn't make people "evil" in my opinion.

And just to be clear, I was being a bit facetious when I called myself an SJW, although I do hold some stereotypically "SJW" views.

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Isn't the NYC Columbus Day Parade a celebration of Italian-American contributions and culture?

Moreover, I don't think you can "Black Out" a specific day of the year for parades/gatherings without running into some pretty serious First Amendment issues.  

To say nothing of New York's Dominican population:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Christopher_Columbus

The Order of Christopher Columbus (Spanish: Orden Heráldica de Cristóbal Colón) is an order of the Dominican Republic. It was established on 21 July 1937. The Head of State confers the order, by advice of the council of the order, both to civilians and military personnel to recognize services.

This order honors the life and works of Christopher Columbus firstly and secondly recognize services to the Dominican Republic or humanitarian services and distinction in the arts and sciences.

If we're going to have Political Correctness, let's talk about the Human Sacrifice conducted by both the Incans, Mayans, and Aztecs:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2019/11/01/largest-child-sacrifice-graveyard-strikes-huge-blow-to-native-american-innocence-myth-n70100

Two hundred and fifty skeletons of children between the ages of 4 and 14 have been unearthed at Huanchaco, Peru, in what experts say is likely the world’s largest child-sacrifice site. Huanchaco is a site of the Chimú culture (1200-1400), a predecessor to the mighty Inca Empire, which also carried out child sacrifices.

“This is the biggest site where the remains of sacrificed children have been found,” the excavation’s chief archaeologist, Feren Castillo, told AFP in August. “There isn’t another like it anywhere else in the world.”

Christopher Columbus is a Hero in most of Central and South America to this day.  Indeed, as Charles Krauthammer once pointed out, Hispanic America is Columbus's legacy.

Columbus was who he was.  I'm not unmindful of his faults, and he was, arguably, something of a grifter at points in his life.  This hardly makes him unique in history.  I'm not an apologist for the Conquistadors, but let's stop making Indigenous Peoples something they were not, and recognize Columbus's role in history, and what it led to, good and bad.  And, while we're at it, let's remind Howard Zinn that he's anti-American on a number of levels, while we resist the rewriting of American History to reflect the anti-American sentiments of Zinn and Company.

Ah yes, the Aztecs, Maya, and Inca (who practiced human sacrifice, unlike medieval Europeans who never did anything bad ever), noted for being the only groups of people in the Americas before Columbus arrived and rescued everyone, bringing sunshine and roses everywhere.

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Also "but the Dominicans love him!!!" The Dominican Republic is the result of colonialism and genocide just like the United States. Their national myths are no more relevant than ours.