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« on: August 08, 2015, 08:21:32 PM »

O'Malley I can understand, given his record in Baltimore. But what exactly is their issue with Sanders?

Also, it's funny to see Atlas Republicans defending Sanders all of a sudden.
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2015, 09:30:22 PM »

Anyway, now that I've thought about this more, I'm starting to sympathize with the protestors, since they're trying to hold white liberals accountable (see MLK's quote about the white moderate). However, I still don't get why they aren't going after Hillary more, since she's the one who's actually going to be the nominee.

Anyway, my point about the irony of Republicans defending Sanders seems to have been lost on everyone here.
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2015, 09:48:29 PM »

Anyway, now that I've thought about this more, I'm starting to sympathize with the protestors, since they're trying to hold white liberals accountable (see MLK's quote about the white moderate). However, I still don't get why they aren't going after Hillary more, since she's the one who's actually going to be the nominee.

Anyway, my point about the irony of Republicans defending Sanders seems to have been lost on everyone here.

"Holding them accountable."  When did that ever include the right to disrupt the peaceful assembly of others and use THEIR microphone (gaining control of it by coercion) to interrupt THEIR speaking event, and run a speaker offstage?

What would happen if a group of crime victims walked up to Al Sharpton's podium and started lecturing him as to the effects of violent criminals on their lives.  Especially if they were white?  Would this be acceptable to Sharpton?  To his followers?  To most black folks?  I would think not, and while I don't particularly care for Sharpton, his Constitutional Rights count as much as mine.  I'd personally love to hold Sharpton accountable for the Tawana Brawley hoax, but (A) that doesn't give me the right to interrupt HIS event and (B) to date, no one died and left me boss of the universe.  But no one died and left anyone in the BLM crowd boss of the universe either.

Civil rights movements are inherently messy.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2015, 09:58:22 PM »

This is the equivalent of MLK leading his protest marches almost solely outside the ACLU's headquarters because he doesn't think they're doing quite enough.

Because the entire BLM movement is focused on criticizing Bernie Sanders?

And since you mentioned MLK...

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

--Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from a Birmingham Jail", 1963
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2015, 10:09:36 PM »

Maybe they disagree with the progressive politics? Honestly, I understand where they are coming from since I am black. They are still retards.

They aren't criticizing him for being progressive.

This is the equivalent of MLK leading his protest marches almost solely outside the ACLU's headquarters because he doesn't think they're doing quite enough.

Because the entire BLM movement is focused on criticizing Bernie Sanders?

And since you mentioned MLK...

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

--Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from a Birmingham Jail", 1963

They certainly seem to have developed a bizarre fixation with disrupting his rallies. And Sanders is far from a "white moderate". He's probably the only candidate who actually takes their issues seriously.

You're somewhat right, but he's made a few awkward comments recently and I can see why they're annoyed.
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