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Crumpets
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« on: March 21, 2017, 11:30:14 AM »
« edited: March 21, 2017, 11:32:27 AM by Crumpets »

That's and great and all, but

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Something like from Democrats as the minority party isn't that surprising, given the events of the past 6 years, and the further liberalization of the party. What would be surprising is if this got enough to support to pass the House during a period of unified Democratic control with 60+ Democratic Senators.

Otherwise it's really just meaningless imo. What would be surprising would be many dozens of Republican co-sponsors as well.

So true. Everyone loves to introduce legislation like this to show off their progressive/conservative credentials and pat each other on the back despite the fact that there is no chance whatsoever that it actually helps a single person unless you can make it something that at least a couple people on the other side can support. There's a word for that - grandstanding. Another good word might be circlejerk.
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Crumpets
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E: -4.06, S: -6.52

« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2017, 11:38:00 AM »
« Edited: March 21, 2017, 11:40:00 AM by Crumpets »

That's and great and all, but

[insert rain clouds]

Something like from Democrats as the minority party isn't that surprising, given the events of the past 6 years, and the further liberalization of the party. What would be surprising is if this got enough to support to pass the House during a period of unified Democratic control with 60+ Democratic Senators.

Otherwise it's really just meaningless imo. What would be surprising would be many dozens of Republican co-sponsors as well.

Virginia, It takes time & a lot of effort to build something meaningful (esp something as hard as Medicare for all). 59 was the best number for HR676 recently & now it is already 70 & many of the earlier Cosponsors in 2015 like Maxime Waters are in the house & are yet to add their name. This number will increase & if it becomes 110-120 from 59, will be a big win. You regroup & try again harder.

0 Republicans will support this - You had 0 Republican Senators voting for ACA (modified Heritage foundation & Romneycare inspired plan), you think they will vote for Medicare for all? If Reagan was filming commercials about socialized medicine killing seniors when LBJ pushed Medicare, this will be an open war !

If you have to fight this war vs the GOP, Dems have to have 60 Senators, the House & a Dem Presidency & everyone has to first unite for the plan.

Your last two paragraphs go against your first paragraph. Who cares how many cosponsors it has if they're all in the minority party? This is the kind of issue that requires years of electoral and political preparation to achieve. By doing it without that, they are essentially admitting that this is all for show/their own egos rather than actually trying to make anyone's life better.
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