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Crumpets
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« on: December 05, 2016, 03:11:37 PM »

Easily independent. If he runs as a Democrat, he'll get a few percent and be out of the picture by mid spring. If he runs as an independent and takes even a few percent of the black/millennial/apathetic vote in the general, it'll basically doom any Democrat.
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Crumpets
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2016, 01:05:54 AM »

He should run as a green party candidate, would almost certainly get the nomination


You know the base of the Green party is left-leaning conspiracy types. They probably wouldn't like Kanye's massive wealth being a nod to Wall Street and all.

He'll do well in the Dem primary. Sadly he'll probably get the nomination.

But who actually likes Kanye? Unlike Trump, whose message actually resonated with a good section of the electorate and who appealed to people's base emotions, what could Kanye possibly have to offer? Could he even build enough of a team to get on ballots? Trump was at least a businessman who understands the basic motions of running for President. Does Kanye?
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2016, 03:10:04 PM »

Stop trying to make Kanye West happen, it's not happening. Even putting aside his complete lack of experience, common sense and intelligence, he recently praised Trump at one of his concerts and said he would have voted for him. That would sink his chances instantly.
*cough* Donald Trump *cough*


I think most liberals are misunderstanding the reason for the rise of Trump and his success. Trump, say what you will about him, at least had a consistent message that resonated with the electorate: "The system is rigged, the elites are not on your side, but I am and I alone can fix it." What's Kanye's message going to be?

I can see it now...

Moderator: Mr. West, how do you respond to those who say you have none of the necessary experience to be president and have vague and unrealistic campaign promises?

Kanye: I will try to answer it again for you, as clearly as I can, because the question you're asking is, "What kind of qualifications does Kanye West have to be president," "What kind of qualifications do I have," and "What would I do in this kind of a situation?" And what would I do in this situation? [...] I have as much experience in politics as Donald Trump did when he sought the presidency. I will be prepared to deal with the responsibilities of being president and the people in the my administration, if I am elected.

Moderator: President Trump?

Trump: Kanye, I know Donald Trump. I am Donald Trump. Donald Trump's a yuge friend of mine - big league good guy, great president. Kanye, you're no Donald Trump.
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Crumpets
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2016, 03:55:09 PM »

Allow me to be brutally honest here for a moment. Kanye is not going to win the Black vote in the Democratic Primary:

1) Black millennials, the segment of the African-American Community most likely to know who West is and care what he has to say, have absolutely terrible turnout.
2) Older Black voters, particularly older Black women, are the ones who actually vote in Democratic primaries
3) The fact that Kanye is married to a White Woman and lives with a rich White Family in LA is not going to be viewed positively by much of the Black Community, especially the older women who are most likely to actually vote.
Kim Kardashian is white??

She's Armenian, so yes she's "Caucasian."
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