Some questions

[jokerman]

I'm not going to respond about the matter because any attempt at intelligent debate will be met with mockery from KEmperor and the others.

[jokerman]

1. KEmperor, JFK, Gabu, Alcon, and a few others from time to time.
2.  I don't nessicarily belive in the danger of the public orginization, which I recognize as a bit of a joke.  But there is a unofficial gruop of elitists and a generally sense of snobbey which concerns me.
3.  A dangerous superiority complex
4.  Ban the chief proponents from government positions, ie. KEmperor, JFK ect.

By the way, I never used the phrase Forum Elite Conspiracy.  I've often refered to Elitists, but I never started the stuff about a conspiratory group.  That was the invention of KEmperor and etc.

[jokerman]

4.  Ban the chief proponents from government positions, ie. KEmperor, JFK ect.

Are you serious?

No, I was just giving an answer to his question.  I think we should just drop the matter -on both sides.

[jokerman]

By the way, I never used the phrase Forum Elite Conspiracy.  I've often refered to Elitists, but I never started the stuff about a conspiratory group.  That was the invention of KEmperor and etc.

It is my understanding that the phrase came about through that PM during the Texasgurl campaign.

No, it did not.  That pm said nothing about a "conspiracy."  That was an invention of either you or Joe Republic, I believe.

Here is the text of the original pm that I sent to Dean, that started this whole business:

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While it is true that I spoke about a forum elite, I said nothing about a dominating conspiracy.

[jokerman]

Here is Joe Republic using the phrase Forum Elite Conspiracy the earliest use (May 27) of the phrase I can find: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=22802.msg490620#msg490620

[jokerman]

Here is Joe Republic using the phrase Forum Elite Conspiracy the earliest use (May 27) of the phrase I can find: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=22802.msg490620#msg490620

Whilst you didn't add the "Conspiracy", you seemingly coined the term "Forum Elite" on the previous page where your PM is quoted.

And I have not denied using that term.  I've always believed there is an annoying and often rude Forum Elite, even if it's not a orginized conspiracy, which I recognize.  You can't deny that the recent actions of KEmperor etc. have been quite elitist and that their is a problem with snobbery to me, southerners, and new people.  Look at all of the threads started after the creation of the SAP.  All of them started by people attacking the SAP.  They dragged it on.  They kept up the baseless and immature attacks.  Were just trying to defend ourselves  here and create a party.  All I'm asking is that ya'll just please leave us alone and let us make up our own minds on who we support (Governor's race, etc.). 

[jokerman]

Ah, so it's elitist when we respond to your baseless accusations against us by making fun of it?  Ok.

Well, the mockery is very annoying and spoils the ability of a civilized debate.

[jokerman]

Preston,

Given that yesterday you were effectively suggesting that the so-called "Forum Elite" were modifying the AtlasWiki to serve their agenda, possibly to the point of god-knows-what that has enterred your mind, I am hardly surprised that people react accordingly to mock such ridiculous claims.

BTW, saying things like "Burn in hell, KEmperor" doesn't do much for the progress of civilized debate either.

Ok you know what, here's what I propose.  We delete all of these threads which have fostered this argument and move on.  Debate the policies of the me and the SAP if you want, but let's not let this FEC debate go on any longer.  I've said some things I regret now, I'm sure we all have.  I'm putting this up to Joe Republic, KEmporer and whoever else started one of the many threads about the matter. 

[jokerman]

Preston,

Given that yesterday you were effectively suggesting that the so-called "Forum Elite" were modifying the AtlasWiki to serve their agenda, possibly to the point of god-knows-what that has enterred your mind, I am hardly surprised that people react accordingly to mock such ridiculous claims.

BTW, saying things like "Burn in hell, KEmperor" doesn't do much for the progress of civilized debate either.

Somebody modified the Atlas wiki to say something to the effect of "Harry is powerhungry and egotistical.  Protect your children."  I suspect that it was you, Peter, but I have no proof of that.  Anyway, the neutral article I wrote was edited to be from an anti-Harry point of view, but I dont care.  I doubt too many people look at Altas Wiki anyway.

Peter Bell was not the one who put that up there. 

The IP addy did match someone from this forum, but I'm not going to say who.

Is it that: 217.42.121.19.  He (or she) wrote the incorrect statement on my article that I invented the Forum Elite Conspiracy.