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BigVic
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2023, 01:06:59 AM »

37. Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew 1969-1973, vacant 1973, Gerald Ford 1973-1974
38. Gerald Ford/vacant 1974, Nelson Rockefeller 1974-1977
39. Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker 1977-1981
40. Joe Biden/Mo Udall 1981-1985, Al Gore 1985-1989
41. Al Gore/John Kerry 1989-1997
42. John Kerry/Dianne Feinstein 1997-2005
43. John McCain/Tom Ridge 2005-2011
44. Tom Ridge/vacant 2011-2012, Rob Portman 2012-2013
45. Howard Dean/Sherrod Brown 2013-2021
46. Sherrod Brown/Elizabeth Warren 2021-present

Back to back two term Democratic Presidents
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2023, 06:54:02 PM »

41. George Bush (Republican-Texas) 1989-1993
42. Donald J. Trump (Reform-New York) 1993-1999 (impeached) [1]
43. Dick Gephardt (Democrat-Missouri) 1999-2001 [2]
44. John Kasich (Republican-Ohio) 2001-2009 [3]
45. Bill Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 2009-2017 [4]
46. Hillary Clinton (Democrat-Washington DC) 2017-2021 [5]
47. Ted Cruz (Republican-Texas) 2021-2029 [6]
48. Marco Rubio (Republican-Florida) 2029-2033 [7]
49. Micheal J. Hoffman (Democrat-Ohio) 2033- [8]


Notable losers:

1992: George Bush (Republican-Texas), Paul Tsongas (Democrat-Massachusetts)
1996: Joe Biden (Democrat-Delaware), Jim Gilmore (Republican-Virginia)
2000: Dick Gephardt (Democrat-Missouri), Ben Carson (Reform-Maryland)
2004: Howard Dean (Democrat-Vermont)
2008: John E. "Jeb" Bush (Republican-Texas), Carly Fiorina (Reform-California)
2012: Mike Huckabee (Republican-Arkansas), George Pataki (Reform-New York)
2016: Rand Paul (Republican-Kentucky), Evan McMullin (Reform-Utah)
2020: Hillary Clinton (Democrat-New York)
2024: Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Illinois)
2028: Kamala D. Harris (Democrat-California)
2032: Marco Rubio (Republican-Florida)

Other semi-notable figures:

Rick Santorum (Republican-Pennsylvania) was the running mate of Mike Huckabee in 2012.

Chris Christie (Republican-New Jersey) was the running mate of Rand Paul in 2016 and unsuccessful candidate for the GOP nomination in 2020.

Lindsey Graham (Republican-South Carolina), Bobby Jindal (Republican-Louisiana), Rick Perry (Republican-Texas), and Scott Walker (Republican-Wisconsin) all ran for President at some point but lost the Republican nomination.

Footnotes:

[1] Compared NAFTA to a "giant sucking sound", a sentiment many feel is vindicated, even many who despise him. Trump governed more like a populist in his later years and also became more corrupt and unpopular with competent cabinet members who were often fired or resigned. A massive corruption scandal lead to his impeachment by a Democratic controlled congress, and the end of the millennium is remembered as a chaotic time in US political history as millions were personally loyal to him and sat out the 2000 election. Even today, hundreds of thousands still belong to his cult of personality.

[2] Trump's second VP, Patrick Buchanan (Reform-Virginia), was already out of office so the Democratic speaker of the House assumed power.

[3] Fiscal conservative who ran as a moderate in both his campaigns, to distance himself from right wing populism inspired by Trump.

[4] The moderate "New Democrat" faction came out on top in the bitterly contested Democratic primaries. After Obama withdrew and a right-wing tech CEO won the Reform party nomination, many believed the Green Party would mount a significant challenge for the Presidency. The Green Party chose to go down the route of kooky new age weirdness and flopped hard.

[5] The nomination of the wife of a sitting President was not without staunch opposition, generally from the left in the Democratic primaries. Once again, the moderate faction won out, this time with divide and conquer tactics. Hillary Clinton was an underdog but prevailed by attacking her opponent's staunch ideological stances. An issue focused campaign kept the White House in the Clinton family for a third term.

The 2020 Democratic primary was the most serious challenge to a sitting Democratic president in 40 years, as Bernie Sanders, originally in it just to give a platform to his left wing views, stayed in longer than planned when President Clinton aggressively tried to put him down. Despite facing another staunchly right wing opponent, President Clinton ran a weak campaign in 2020, was easier on her opponent than she was on Sanders, and clearly expected to lose.

[6] Some compare him to Ronald Reagan, but President Cruz is more comparable to President Kasich in that his fiscally conservative ideas were often blocked by a Democratic controlled congress less amenable to right wing policy than the Democrats of the 1980s. The government of the 2020s was characterized as doing nothing to solve anything, and many Cruz supporters openly liked that.

Cruz's biggest accomplishment was the invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of its decrepit post-communist regime. This was during his second term, in the mid 2020s. The success of this invasion was a major contributor to Republican retention of the White House in 2028, along with a weaker Democratic candidate.

[7] The Bush to Cruz's Reagan. The meme of him nervously taking a drink of water while giving a speech to the American people on an important issue is still laughed about today. When the occupation of Cuba was winding down in the early 2030s, Rubio was forced to campaign on other issues, and it was revealed that he wasn't that great.

[8] First mayor of Cleveland, Ohio to become President. A staunch progressive, finally giving the emergent left wing the White House. Also the first black President. There are dark rumors that a cabal of tech CEO's and hardline right wingers attempted a coup against him in January 2033, but if such rumors are true then it failed.

Bill and Hillary back-to-back
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2023, 11:38:07 PM »

Jimmy Carter (D): January 20, 1977-January 20, 1985
-Elected 1976 (305-233 EV/51.0%-47.0% PV)
-Elected 1980 (276-262 EV/46.6%-47.5% PV)
Walter Mondale (D): January 20, 1985-January 20, 1989
-Elected 1984 (300-238 EV/ 49.7%-47.4% PV)
George H.W. Bush (R): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1993
-Elected 1988 (323-215 EV/ 52.2%-45.1% PV)
Al Gore (D): January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
-Elected 1992 (270-268 EV/ 48.1%-48.0% PV)
-Elected 1996 (467-71 EV/ 55.5%-42.8% PV)
Ann Richards (D): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005
-Elected 2000 (307-231 EV/ 50.4%-49.1% PV)
William Cohen (R): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2013
-Elected 2004 (282-256 EV/ 49.3%-48.9% PV)
-Elected 2008 (419-119 EV/ 54.0%-42.8% PV)
John McCain (R): January 20, 2013-May 24, 2014
-Elected 2012 (272-266 EV/ 47.9%-48.0% PV)
Susan Collins (R): May 24, 2014-January 20, 2017
Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021
-Elected 2016 (347-191 EV/ 52.0%-47.3% PV)
Susan Collins (R): January 20, 2021-Present
-Elected 2020 (257-266-15 EV/ 44.8%-46.2%-9.0% PV)

What happened to McCain
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« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2024, 02:00:34 AM »

I'll kick things off by showcasing We Shall Overcome, the very scenario I've been working on and off on for the past... well, it began in October 2023 so the past few months.

This reads like an Oscars thank you speech, but I'd like to thank Hal Jordan of AH.com for inspiring the creation of this piece. The full list can be found on that site. Due inspiration, especially, to allthekingsmen (i.e. allthepresidentsmen) for his timelines, which also lent some inspiration. Bunch of other people I've gotta thank, too, for inspiring segments of this piece — Rillium, AstroRangerBeans, Orchard, Reagent, Addemup, The British President, Just Rebecca (MisterAnemone on Sufficient Velocity), and SomeGuyOnline.

As it stands, though I've been revising and revising this puppy since first working on it, the presidential list:

* indicates OCs

46. Fmr. VP Joe Biden of Delaware / Senator Kamala Harris of California (Democratic): January 20, 2021 - May 7, 2026
2020: def. President Donald Trump of Florida / VP Mike Pence of Indiana (Republican)
2024: def. Fmr. President Donald Trump of Florida / Representative Elise Stefanik of New York (Republican) & Environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of California / Fmr. Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii (Independent)
May 7, 2026: resigns from office due to health concerns
47. VP Kamala Harris of California / vacant (until July 13, 2026); Governor Roy Cooper of North Carolina (from July 13, 2026) (Democratic): May 7, 2026 - January 20, 2029
July 13, 2026: Roy Cooper appointed as VP by a narrow margin
48. Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy of Ohio / Representative Anna Paulina Luna of Florida (Republican): January 20, 2029 - January 20, 2033
2028: def. President Kamala Harris of California / VP Roy Cooper of North Carolina (Democratic)
February 18, 2032: transgender rights activist Vanessa McCoy* murdered by alt-right militants, sparking the Vanessagate scandal
May 23, 2032: impeached by House following Vanessagate; would later be acquitted by Senate
49. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York / Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia (Democratic/Unity): January 20, 2033 - January 20, 2041
2032: def. President Vivek Ramaswamy of Ohio / VP Anna Paulina Luna of Florida (Republican)
2033-2035: passing of the "Civil Amendments", including the Equal Rights Amendment and Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment, alongside the activation of the NPVIC
2036: def. Senator Todd Young of Indiana / Representative Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin (Common Sense) & Far-right political commentator Nick Fuentes of Illinois / Far-right political commentator Jackson Hinkle of California (Patriot)
November 6, 2036: secession of the unrecognized National Patriot Front
January 20-21, 2037: the January Putsch; Ocasio-Cortez declares a "Unity Party" and mobilizes forces against the NPF
December 14, 2037: collapse of the NPF following the Battle of Omaha
50. Governor Wes Moore of Maryland (Unity/Justice) / Senator Julia Salazar of New York (Unity/Justice): January 20, 2041 - January 20, 2049
2040: def. Senator Dan Crenshaw of Texas / Representative Mike Lawler of New York (Conservative Alliance)
2044: def. Representative Julia E. Coleman of Minnesota / Representative Blake Moore of Utah (Conservative Alliance)
July 19, 2046: Unity Party partitioned into Justice, New Democratic, and National Liberal parties as part of the ongoing "Reconfederation Period"
51. Governor Marie Gluesenkamp-Perez of Washington [✝] / Representative Lina Hidalgo of Texas (National Liberal): January 20, 2049 - May 8, 2053
2048: first round def. Representative Maxwell Frost of Florida / Representative Zaynab Mohamed of Minnesota (Justice) & Senator Shevrin Jones of Florida / Governor Michelle Wu of Massachusetts (New Democratic) & Senator Austin Harris of Iowa / Senator Max Miller of Oregon (Conservative Alliance) & Environmental activist Gracie Jacobson of Mississippi* / Civil rights advocate Alan M. Jacinto of Arizona* (Green) / second round def. Senator Shevrin Jones of Florida / Governor Michelle Wu of Massachusetts (New Democratic) & Environmental activist Gracie Jacobson of Mississippi* / Civil rights advocate Alan M. Jacinto of Arizona* (Green)
September 5, 2049: Conservative Alliance partitioned into Christian Renewal and United Libertarian parties as part of the ongoing "Reconfederation Period"

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