I Have Officially Left the RCC

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I just hope that this doesn't turn into a Catholic bashing thread.

Ok, then we’ll save for another day a discussion on the fact the RCC claims Muslims who reject Jesus Christ’s deity and resurrection are still saved through worship of Allah.  We wouldn’t want to “bash” anyone by lifting up Jesus as the one and only path to God.

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Worship of God. If you want to be pedantic, Worship of the God.

John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." (Jesus Christ)

John 14:6 "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (Jesus Christ)

Acts 4:12 “Salvation is found in no one else"  (Apostle Peter)

1John 2:23 "No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also."  (Apostle John)

1John 5:10 "Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son."  (Apostle John)

Therefore, no one who rejects Jesus Christ will be saved.  Is that not what these verses say?

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We should install some sort of filter that prohibits jmfcst from quoting the Bible.

well, if you need a filter, you could cover your ears if you no longer what to hear that Jesus is the only way to God.

"Look," Stephen said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."  At this they covered their ears. (Acts 7:56-57) 

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well, if you need a filter, you could cover your ears if you no longer what to hear that Jesus is the only way to God.

"Look," Stephen said, "I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."  At this they covered their ears. (Acts 7:56-57) 

Anyway, the moral of the story is: shut up.

correct, that is exactly what they wanted Stephen to do.  And it was common practice to try to muzzle Christians, because there is just something about the name of Jesus that gets under people’s skin:

Acts 5:30 "They called the apostles in and had them flogged. Then they ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go."

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If you try to create a Church that is as conservative or "theologically pure" as your fundamentalist or conservative Protestant sects then you have a major problem

I believe a church should only dictate salvational issues and allow everything else to be debatable.

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I just hope that this doesn't turn into a Catholic bashing thread.

Ok, then we’ll save for another day a discussion on the fact the RCC claims Muslims who reject Jesus Christ’s deity and resurrection are still saved through worship of Allah.  We wouldn’t want to “bash” anyone by lifting up Jesus as the one and only path to God.

You know, I kind of feel bad for you when people attack you for religious reasons but then I think of the stuff you say about Catholics/myself and realize that you deserve everything they throw at you.

My point, which you just proved, was simple:   Since you consider any disagreement with your church as "bashing", we'll have to save discussions over disagreements for another day.

But, in reality, disagreement is not bashing, even though YOU consider it bashing.

If you are too sensitive to accept those who are willing to discuss differences of opinion, then you need to take a break from not only this forum, but from democracy itself.

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how liberal the church has become

LOL!!!!

In many ways it has, Harry.

Give some examples.

Claiming that Islam is a valid path to salvation.

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What is wrong with Islam? (not radical Islam, of course)

1) Islam denies that Jesus is the only begotten son of God.
2) Islam denies that Jesus was crucified.
3) Islam denies that Jesus was resurrected.

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What is wrong with Islam? (not radical Islam, of course)

1) Islam denies that Jesus is the only begotten son of God.
2) Islam denies that Jesus was crucified.
3) Islam denies that Jesus was resurrected.

False on the second charge.

Islam clearly teaches that Jesus did not die on the cross and that they crucified an imposter poising as Jesus:

"That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge;  That they said (in boast):  'We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.'  But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.." Quran 4:156-158

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has anyone heard from Keystone Phil since his last post in this thread?

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Islam clearly teaches that Jesus did not die on the cross and that they crucified an imposter poising as Jesus:

"That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge;  That they said (in boast):  'We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.'  But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.." Quran 4:156-158

Wow. That's pretty much directly out of the gnostics' teachings, isn't it?

I wouldn't know, I don't know anything about the gnostics' teachings.  I am ignorant of opinions other than my own.  Not that that's a good thing.

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Examples of that liberalization would be not using Latin

Are you referring to speaking Latin or are you referring to the Latin Mass?

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I still believe in God, I just don't need to sit in a roomful of homophobes once a week to acknowledge that.

Yeah, Not to mention that those homophobes are also murderphobes, adulterphobes, haterphobes, thiefphobes, fornicatorphobes, idolaterphobes, liarphobes, and on and on and on.  In fact, they’re afraid of their own shadows.

But as for belief in God, it does not save anyone.

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. (James 2:19)