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« on: November 09, 2006, 12:19:16 AM »

Supersoulty,

Santorum played the clown too many times.  Just a couple of months ago he held a press conference claiming the US had found WMD in Iraq, though it was only a couple of old mustard gas shells.

In any case, he would not have survived this year in this political climate, dirty tricks or no dirty tricks.  The GOP deserved to lose and lose big.

As for your gay friend...I think it is evil to publicly disclose sin and I am glad Santorum apologized on behalf of Casey.  I want to suggest you talk to your friend about repentance; but first, you really need to deal with the hatred you've expressed over the last 24 hours.  There is a lot more to life than politics and hatred will only take away your own life and replace it with bitterness.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2006, 12:07:29 PM »


He's made it clear that homosexuality is a sin in his opinion.


That's exactly what I thought he was saying, obviously. I just wanted to be 100% sure and give him the benefit of the doubt before I label him a bigot.

(my apologies to those who have read the following canned response a thousand times)

I believe that lying is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards liars?  Do you believe I hate liars?

I believe that fornication is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards fornicators?  Do you believe I hate fornicators?

I believe that stealing is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards thieves?  Do you believe I hate thieves?

I believe that adultery is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards adulterers?  Do you believe I hate adulterers?

I believe that getting drunk is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards those who get drunk?  Do you believe I hate those who get drunk?

…I believe that sinzyz is a sin…so, do you believe I am using a Holy Book to back up my own bigotry towards those who practice sinxyz?  Do you believe I hate those who practice sinxyz?

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2006, 03:08:05 PM »

Um.....thanks dude. Now.......

Can you please explain to me WHAT ON EARTH ANY OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH YOU BELIEVING THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN?



Sorry for the confusion, my post was a repost from another thread....but, basically, you called me a bigot for believing homosexuality is a sin. 

My usual retort is to point out that in order for your logic is be consistent, then you have to call me a bigot for believing lying is sin, and a bigot for believing the same about fornication, and a bigot for believing the same about adultery,  and a bigot for believing the same about murder,  and a bigot for believing the same about hatred,  and a bigot for believing the same about stealing,  and a bigot for believing the same about impurity,  and a bigot for believing the same about debauchery,  and a bigot for believing the same about idolatry,  and a bigot for believing the same about witchcraft,  and a bigot for believing the same about hatred,  and a bigot for believing the same about discord,  and a bigot for believing the same about jealousy,  and a bigot for believing the same about fits of rage,  and a bigot for believing the same about selfish ambition,  and a bigot for believing the same about dissensions,  and a bigot for believing the same about envy,  and a bigot for believing the same about drunkenness.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2006, 04:01:44 PM »

supersoulty,

The Dems always try to paint themselves as the victims
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2006, 04:30:18 PM »

Hmmm... well, now that I see that I am being quoted as saying "I am not Alcon" I woudl liek to explain that my comment was not intended to be any kinda of statement against Alcon, and I appologize for it.

you disappoint me, man. I was right there with you, raging against the machine.  I was Dennis Hopper and you were Colonel Kurtz.

And now, what's this?!  you're gone! 

Who will tell your story?

I will! I will tell your story!...:

"I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters. These were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment. Because it's judgment that defeats us."
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2006, 04:55:42 PM »

LOL... thanks man, that really did cheer me up, believe it or not.

It's always good to put things in perspective.

Rom 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2006, 06:23:03 PM »

Again, your post makes no sense at all. Basically what you just did was rehash everything you already said as if you were saying something new and it still makes no logical sense whatsoever. You seem to be assuming it as fact that homosexuality is a sin like stealing is a sin. Therefore your argument is fundamentally flawed. Your logic needs a ton of work buddy.

So, you refuse to call me a bigot for believing fornication is a sin...along with adultery, murder, stealing, lying, etc...but you will call me a bigot because I believe homosexuality is a sin. 

And you claim my logic needs a lot of work?!
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