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« on: September 22, 2006, 09:03:32 AM »

I am assuming your intent is to prove Christians as violent as Muslims.  But your example is of a country that has areas divided between Muslims and Christians, much like Nigeria.  So you may want to google Nigeria if you want to find examples of Christians slaughtering Muslims.
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2006, 09:36:30 AM »

I am assuming your intent is to prove Christians as violent as Muslims.  But your example is of a country that has areas divided between Muslims and Christians, much like Nigeria.  So you may want to google Nigeria if you want to find examples of Christians slaughtering Muslims.

No, my intent was to show that Christians can be violent and hate filled as well. I try my best to avoid prejudice. I don't believe either group is inherently hateful or violent, but I do believe that both groups are equally capable of it given the right circumstances. You however seem to believe otherwise and demonize the Muslims while being apologistic for violence in your own religion. What exactly is your excuse for this? Is the execution of fellow Christians an excuse for Christians to loot and riot now? To burn down the prosecutors home and throw rocks at the police?

I am not excusing any Christian violence, unless it is in self defense, which in this case doesn't appear to be.

Nor would I excuse Christians in 30 different Christian countries executing former Christians every single Friday.

You are picking an example of a local Christian case and trying to equate it to a global Muslim problem.

But the whole time you are ignoring the fact that while it is wise and good-hearted to try to solve the social-economic ills of the middle-east, the aggression of the Muslim against Israel will not wait for your 12 step program to make a meaningful difference geopolitically. 

You will help individuals, but you won't stop the mob.  It is much like witnessing to Mormons: you may save a few, but you are not going to stop the train. (not to be confused with my other train analogies Wink )



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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2006, 04:53:02 PM »

The point I was making is that this is happening because of unfair treatment of the minority Christians in Indonesia. While these riots are, indeed, acts of anger and even hatred, I would again say that they were brought on by acts of the Indonesian Muslim majority.

The bolded part in your statement was probably meant for jmfcst, but since I've never made that claim I see no need to bother with it. Tongue

Yeah, he is tring to paint Christianity as being equivalent to Islam in regard to violence.  I pointed him towards Nigeria.  He should also google Constantine for an example of a Christian tyrant.

But, in the end, it isn't going to help deal the following:

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land."

"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

"A point where the annihilation of the Zionist regime will come."

"The Islamic umma (community) will not allow its historic enemy to live in its heartland...[looking to an ] historic war between the oppressor and the world of Islam".

"We should not settle for a piece of land."

Mohammad Sadeq Hosseini, an expert on Middle Eastern affairs: "Ahmadinejad has clearly declared the doctrine of his government. By these comments, Ahmadinejad is committing himself to those goals."
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