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« on: March 21, 2012, 02:47:13 PM »

hot off the presses, here's the dinner doddle the jmfcsts will be reviewing tonight during dinner.  It's about the necessity of obedience.



here's a printable pdf version:

http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1101781144813-256/DOODLE58+Obey.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 03:30:04 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbhMTfBsD9g#t=2m43s
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 07:30:11 PM »

So Christ isn't free to bless someone or perform a miracle in the absence of obedience?

what are you reading?
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 09:26:09 PM »

the jmfcsts have devoured dinner and they dug the dinner doodle
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 10:38:44 AM »

So Christ isn't free to bless someone or perform a miracle in the absence of obedience?

what are you reading?
a placemat that claims blessing and miracles is dependent on obedience, and that if God does otherwise he's being a bad parent. "When we are obedient to Christ, he is free to bless us, even miraculously." 


Then you’re reading selectively, for it also said “And His miracles may depend on our obedience.”

The purpose of the doodle was not to give an exhaustive list of what miracles are possible under different obedience scenarios, but rather that God ultimately requires obedience.

There are obviously some blessings dependent upon obedience (e.g. salvation itself), but there are some miracles God does in order to lead us to obedience while we are still disobedient (e.g. his calling and his gift of faith).

Did Jesus reveal himself to Paul on the road to Damascus because Paul was being obedient?  Obviously not, for Paul was going around murdering Christians simply for their belief in Christ. So we can say that Paul was blessed with the gift of faith PRIOR to Paul's obedience. 

Or, take my example – was I living a life in obedience to God the night in Oct 92 when I received the Holy Spirit?  God knows I wasn’t.

Luke 5:23 “I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2012, 10:33:21 AM »

Too many words in all caps. Not enough paragraph breaks.

and the paint in the bathroom is the wrong shade...all reasons to ignore the subject and move along.
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