Texas School Punishes Boy for Opposing Homosexuality

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when the state recognizes homosexuality, the very next thing to happen is that it is taught in the school and kids are scolded for their religious views....the whole push for recognition and hate crime legislation is to silence Christians.

Just watch, it wont be long before churches will be sued and lose their charitable status for preaching that homosexuality is a sin.

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What's with these fundies? What's wrong about a girl being attracted to a girl or a guy being attracted to a guy? Who gives a sh**t?

better yet, what's wrong with a Christian believing in the bible?  why should he be punished for having Christian religious views?

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What's with these fundies? What's wrong about a girl being attracted to a girl or a guy being attracted to a guy? Who gives a sh**t?

better yet, what's wrong with a Christian believing in the bible?  why should he be punished for having Christian religious views?

The views here are so innocuous/benign to you.  They aren't so innocent to everyone.  The question is, at what point (if there is one) does the espouser's free speech right have to yield to other rights, particularly in a school setting?  If at all? 

then the teacher should NOT have brought up the subject if she didnt want it discussed....and whose rights was the kid violating by simply expressing his opinioin than an action is sin?!...do Americans have the right not to hear other opinoins even if they thrust themselves into a debate?

you've fallen off the turnip truck, BM

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mark my words:  it won't be long before it will unlawful to publically express the view that homosexuality is a sin

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Political Correctness is bad.

It's stange that a Texas school would do this. Good thing this didn't happen in New England, he'd be expelled!

being removed from school is just a first step...next they will go after churches due to their tax status...after that, it will become unlawful to express such views in public without either being sued or outright arrested

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BM,

to even consider the rights of the "offended" during open discussion of a topic is a bit....extreme.  If a person doesn't want to hear an opposing view, then simply don't engage in discussing the subject, for everyone certainly has the right to not debate.

if would be like jmfcst suing Dibble for Dibble's expressed views of Christianity, when I am the one who chose to bring it up.

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Can people express racist views in public without being sued?

anyone has the right to be ignorant during an open debate as long as they remain on subject...just like people have the right to be ignorant enough to equate racism with homosexuality

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Sure.  But I doubt you'd be surprised by that.  Clearly the teacher in the original matter (if we're getting enough of the crucial bits of the story) exercised poor judgment.

"poor judgment"?!  That's like Bill telling Kiddo he "overreacted" when he popped a cap in her head.  If the story is correct, then the teacher CLEARLY sought to lash out at Christian views regarding homosexuality.

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Jmfcst, I don't recall a place in the Bible where it says that "being a homosexual is wrong". Obviously it says having gay sex is wrong, but that's not what the student in this case said.

well, defining homosexual leanings as "sinful desire" and "shameful lust" and the thoughts of a "depraved mind" aint exactly giving it a ringing endorsement, is it?

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Sure.  But I doubt you'd be surprised by that.  Clearly the teacher in the original matter (if we're getting enough of the crucial bits of the story) exercised poor judgment.

"poor judgment"?!  That like Bill telling Kiddo he "overreacted" when he popped a cap in her head.  If the story is correct, then the teacher CLEARLY sought to lash out at Christian views regarding homosexuality.

How do I put this...you acknowledge that its possible to separate the christian aspect from the anti-homosexual aspect right?  Its true that the basis for the anti-homosexual belief is from a religious perspective; however, the basis for the teacher getting into a fit had nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with the anti-homosexuality.  

So that it follows that had the student been a muslim who said I am a muslim and homosexuality is wrong...or just a hateful non-religious guy who said  I am a blah blah blah...homosexuality is wrong...the teacher would have thrown up the same fuss he did with the Christian student.

The religion is necessary for the Student's viewpoint on homosexuality, but its not really necessary for the teacher to get his knickers in a twist over the students viewpoint.

yeah, I'm sure the teacher's reaction would have been the same towards a Muslim...

If you hadn't noticed, the left is willing to embrace Muslims regardless of their views on homosexuality....the left isnt offended by the message from Allah, they're offended by the message from Jesus Christ

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I oppose fundamentist Muslims as much than I oppose fundementalist Christians.

perhaps you do, but the vast majority of the press doesnt

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If you hadn't noticed, the left is willing to embrace Muslims regardless of their views on homosexuality....the left isnt offended by the message from Allah, they're offended by the message from Jesus Christ

To be honest with you, I doubt the left (whatever that might be) really gives a damn at the moment about Islam's view on homosexuality because its far more preoccupied with a group of muslims willing to commit mass terror and murder over other things not really connected with homosexuality.  

Solve that problem and a few others on the totem pole and maybe we'll see the left take on the anti-homosexual muslims.  If the left is true to its word of course.  

dude, the left is embracing the Arab Spring like it was the best thing since sliced bread...and they've run article after article how Muslims in America are nicer than Christians in America

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As for the y is nicer than x...I haven't seen that trend.  I'm sure you can find a few articles (maybe a decent quantity) but who is to say what their real motive is?  Bash the entrenched power (who also is probably predominantly christian) in favor of other interests (which US muslims probably are a part of)?  Try to run favorable stories on muslims to show the rest of the country they arent as bad as we think (of course they'd cherry pick the muslims most americans would feel comfortable with)?  Or perhaps as you suppose, they have an anti-christian or even anti-religious agenda and the muslims are a short term ally and long term enemy too.  Long story short, I just dont think the media's agenda is as quick and easy to characterize as you seem to think.

 

bro, I ran entire threads on this showing how the media set up a daily feature to show a new story each day about Muslims in America being mistreated by Christians....and about a week later, Newt came out with his "US might become an majority atheist country ruled by Sharia law" remark.  kinda hard not to notice when every day you look at the TV news, internet, and newspapers and see the same pattern day after day after day....where were you during this time when the atheist press took up the cause of Muslim and attempted to make Christians look repressive?

of course, since the Arab Spring aint looking so good now, those series have basically stopped

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You must watch different media than I do, because I haven't noticed that at all really, and in particular a focus on Christians in particular as the perps. But it is understandable that you have more sensitivity to this than I, so no doubt I am not paying as much attention to this sort of thing as you are.

well, I created a whole thread on it back in March and every day I gave a new example:
Day 1
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=133688.msg2853096#msg2853096

Day 2
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=133688.msg2853812#msg2853812

Day 3
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=133688.msg2854717#msg2854717

Day 4
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=133688.msg2855597#msg2855597

...I stopped, not because I ran out of examples, but because I simply got board with this forum's delusional refusal to acknowledge what was going on....but, like I said, since the Arab Spring is beginning to show it's turn intentions, a lot of this kind of coverage has stopped

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Jmfcst, I don't recall a place in the Bible where it says that "being a homosexual is wrong". Obviously it says having gay sex is wrong, but that's not what the student in this case said.

Back in those days, homosexuality was a choice-that is, a hobby-rather than a lifestyle.

God:  “What you are doing is deprived and shameful!”

UnSaintlyHomosexual:  “But I’m not doing it as a passing fad, I’m really serious about it and have made it my lifestyle…”

God: “Oh, in that case, carry on…”

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holy crap!  just read the article...hats off to Dibble for being so balanced in his citation 

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yep, teacher and school weren't pushing an agenda at all...

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If the school didn't side with the teacher, how did the student get suspended in the first place?  A teacher can't suspend a student without the administration going along with it.

of course the school sided with the teacher:

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and it took a the family's  lawyer to rattle the school's cage in order to drop the suspension:

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That quote is why I said it had little to do with christianity and more to do with the teachers disdain with antihomosexuality.

well, yeah, obviously if the boy had said, "I am a Christian and I support homosexual", the teacher would not have had a problem.  The teacher will tolerate Christian viewpoints as long as they're unChristian.  After all, it's not label of Christianity that is offensive, it's the substance.

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If I had to guess I would suspect that the teacher wrote the infraction up and someone in admin rubber stamped it without really looking into it trusting the teacher was justified in doing it, and it may be possible the teacher exaggerated the problem when he wrote it up as well given the description of how this teacher reacted to the incident.

 no, i think the teacher sent him down to the office and the vice principle listened to what happened, got the boy's side of the story...scolded the student and determined the punishment

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teachers dont have the power to suspend a student...that comes from either the principal or the assistant principal

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teachers dont have the power to suspend a student...that comes from either the principal or the assistant principal

I'm aware of that - what do you think I meant by "someone in admin"?

Hey, even though I misread your post, just be glad I attempted to read it. 

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This is the kind of debate where the winning party is the one who doesn't participate.

that's only because we have Nazis as moderators  

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