Trump's mantra: "It's all about ME!"

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His narcissism is the single-greatest thing prohibiting a successful term in office. He should be working WITH Congress on health care and taxes, not leaving them to do it so he can sign them and pretend like he did something. He’s probably made his presidency much more of a figurehead position where his advisers are the main ones running the show.

I believe Trump's actual agenda and the agenda of the GOP Congress are somewhat different. 

I believe that Trump's goal on healthcare is to "fix Obamacare", something much of the GOP wants to do, but no part of the GOP wants to admit is their goal.  He's got them to the point where it's clear Obamacare won't be repealed. 

I can't believe you still think Trump is playing 4d chess when all evidence ovwhelmingly suggests he's just a moron

He ran billion dollar business and won primary and presidential elections against all odds. It's time to admit he's not stupid.

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He ran billion dollar business and won primary and presidential elections against all odds. It's time to admit he's not stupid.

It depends on what you classify as stupid. Trump undeniably knows how to work a room, which is fantastic for a politician, but business-wise, Trump made a lot of very costly mistakes decades ago (as one put it, "how do you lose a billion dollars in the 90s?"), and he has run up a lot of debt. Nonetheless it's still something that he recovered and retooled his business around his personal brand, but I think it would be a mistake to call Trump a well-rounded man. By all accounts, he is not a good businessman. He is a good promoter, which was enough to win a primary and get elected against the 2nd most unpopular candidate in modern history.

As we can see now, he's really an awful politician. He can't control himself, is not strategic and doesn't listen to people. Most of Trump's big issues to date have been self-inflicted wounds, such as firing Comey and then basically stating it was due to the Russia investigation on live TV. That got Mueller instated and the rest we all know.

So no, while I'd say he has smarts in some areas, he is overall probably an idiot of sorts.

Democrats really need to stop underestimating Trump if they want to win in 2020. Don't get fooled by his offensive and primitive style that is just a theater for public. He's without any doubt at least in top 10% most intelligent people in the US. Just because you're not his target audience doesn't mean he's stupid.

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Democrats really need to stop underestimating Trump if they want to win in 2020. Don't get fooled by his offensive and primitive style that is just a theater for public. He's without any doubt at least in top 10% most intelligent people in the US. Just because you're not his target audience doesn't mean he's stupid.

So all his self-destructive behavior both before and after becoming president is part of a master plan or something?

It worked for him in the primary and general elections. It might work for him again.

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It is both sad and hilarious that people think that Trump is putting on an act.

He is a stupid, incompetent bigot. This is who he is and has always been.

People can be bigots, egoists, evil etc... while still being highly intelligent. You're confusing somebody who holds opinions you don't like with somebody who is stupid. He talks the way he talks because he knows that in order to appeal to masses you have to speak in short simple sentences.