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« on: July 05, 2017, 09:55:09 PM »

"Trump can't reverse the decline of white, Christian America", says increasingly panicked establishment.
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2017, 10:37:54 PM »

"Trump can't reverse the decline of white, Christian America", says increasingly panicked establishment.

Don't be stupid. Levels of both white Americans and Christianity is on a downward trajectory. You want to bray about your man god (fortunately you live under Trudeau by your avatar or something) but at least ascertain your facts are remotely correct.

For starters one would want to evaluate why Trump lost the popular vote despite winning whites by a record 22 points.

Hint: non whites.

The 👏🏻 popular 👏🏻 vote 👏🏻 doesn't 👏🏻 matter. The 👏🏻 GOP 👏🏻 win 👏🏻 when 👏🏻 they 👏🏻 appeal 👏🏻 to 👏🏻 white 👏🏻 people 👏🏻
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 02:28:42 AM »

"Trump can't reverse the decline of white, Christian America", says increasingly panicked establishment.

Don't be stupid. Levels of both white Americans and Christianity is on a downward trajectory. You want to bray about your man god (fortunately you live under Trudeau by your avatar or something) but at least ascertain your facts are remotely correct.

For starters one would want to evaluate why Trump lost the popular vote despite winning whites by a record 22 points.

Hint: non whites.

The 👏🏻 popular 👏🏻 vote 👏🏻 doesn't 👏🏻 matter. The 👏🏻 GOP 👏🏻 win 👏🏻 when 👏🏻 they 👏🏻 appeal 👏🏻 to 👏🏻 white 👏🏻 people 👏🏻

I realize you're Canadian living under Trudeau and thinks somehow Trump is the Great White Saviour and you don't understand American elections, but let me give you an impromptu lesson. Because by God, I know my sh*t in this area. And I know you don't.

I bet you felt really good about yourself while writing that - powerful, even.

One! The popular vote matters in terms of delivering electoral legitimacy. If you - a Republican - cannot win the popular vote and 35-40% of whites vote Democratic, because you lost California by 4 milliion votes, Illinois by 2 million votes, New York by 2 million votes, and your margin in Texas is cut in half because 18-44 vote Democratic by a wide margin, let me explain something to you: you have limited legitimacy as President. It's called a "mandate"  in political science and no popular vote means no mandate to enact your policies.

"We can't govern unless our coastal masters are happy!" This is why you and your ilk are losers: you seek the approval of people who hate you. California, New York, and Illinois can sit and spin - the Trump agenda goes forward with or without their consent.

Two: white people matter less and less in this country in terms of determining the President. In 2004, George W. Bush won 44% of Latinos and 44% of Asians, and won the popular vote by 2.5 million he won whites 57-43%. Trump won the white vote by 22 points (either 59-37% or 58-37%) but lost the popular vote because Latinos voted 65-27% for Clinton and Asians voted similarly for Clinton.

Now, I know math may not be the strongest forte of the Trumpists, but hold onto your hats folks

"Hold on to your hats"? Jesus Christ, listen to yourself.

because my God, this is revelationary: if non-whites grow at the clip they did and cost Trump the popular vote by 3 million, that means appealing only to whites the way the Donald did is not a winning strategy. Because eventually, states like Georgia, Arizona, and other states flip adding up to 270 for the Democrats! What a novel concept!


I forgot that demographic shift is a mystical and inexplicable force and not something that flows from policy.

Now, I know you didn't do any research whatsoever because you follow the likes of r/the_Donald, but let me educate you about the most liberal states that delivered huge majorities for Clinton. Did you know, by any chance, brilliant strategist that you are, the white vote in these states? That's right, Clinton won CA whites by 5 points, lost NY whites by 6 points, and lost IL whites by 12 points (less than half of her national margin). She won WA whites, OR whites, New England whites.

So! The logical deduction is that you can't just keep hoping to win more whites over time to win elections!

Have I made my point that your point about "appealing to whites" is absolutely retarded along with your apparently asinine understanding of American politics?

Yes? Excellent.

You sound completely hysterical. Cut the soy out of your diet and stop drinking from plastic bottles.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 02:00:10 PM »

Donald Trump was endorsed by the KKK, pretended to not know who David Duke was, winked at the alt right and retweeted neo nazis, said he would deport all undocumented immigrants, said he'd build a wall on our southern border and make Mexico pay for it, and said he'd ban all Muslims.

Donald Trump still won more people of color than Mitt Romney did. That's not to say the GOP don't have demographic problems moving forward, but if the Democratic Party couldn't even stop more people of color from voting for Trump than Romney last year given the kind of campaign Trump ran, then the Democrats have their own problems unrelating to demography that evens the playing field.

Trump outperformed Romney with non-white voters because of the kind of campaign he ran, not in spite of it. "Trump es muy macho, Mitt Romney no es macho."
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 08:51:34 PM »

It's like the white nationalists don't even bother being unique anymore. When the boy started talking about plastic bottles I knew he was one of these types. His white nationalism and sexism is on full display here. It's awesome.

Ditto that signature in conjunction with everything else.

(also total lack of understanding of politics).

"His white nationalism and sexism is on full display here. It's awesome." - SilentCal1924
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 09:35:36 PM »

It's like the white nationalists don't even bother being unique anymore. When the boy started talking about plastic bottles I knew he was one of these types. His white nationalism and sexism is on full display here. It's awesome.

Ditto that signature in conjunction with everything else.

(also total lack of understanding of politics).

"His white nationalism and sexism is on full display here. It's awesome." - SilentCal1924


Well I'm glad you don't deny it. Acceptance is a healthy thing!

And lolz and if you bothered to read my posts I picked my handle because I express a variety of right wing opinions (abortion, gun rights, etc).

The lefties here don't accuse me of white nationalism and sexism mostly because, gee, I go out of my way to condemn it and advocate policies that don't have racist or sexist underpinnings. Or say things like the GOP should rely on the white vote!

It was a joke, man. You see, out of context, the quote makes you sound like you think white nationalism and sexism are 'awesome'. Chill out for a bit, internet forums aren't that serious.

Leftists don't accuse you of anything because you're harmless and you don't challenge their worldview in any way.
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