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« on: August 08, 2015, 08:56:36 PM »

O'Malley I can understand, given his record in Baltimore. But what exactly is their issue with Sanders?

This is what I really don't understand. Did they not see his speech that he made to the SCLC? That was one of his best speeches. It took maybe 10-15 minutes to read it on his website. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but he was active as far back as the 1960's in the civil rights movement. A lot of blacks would be helped by his economic ideas because they are disproportionately poorer on average. He has denounced over-policing and would consider legalizing marijuana, which would help keep people, especially black youth, out of prisons. He supported Jesse Jackson in 1988. I'm just not sure what he's supposed to do to get their support other than making BLM the only issue of his campaign.

Looking at O'Malley's record in Baltimore is not pretty. Look at the riots earlier this year. Why aren't BLM protestors going after him more?


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You don't seem to understand the ethos of this movement. These people don't care about Bernie Sanders' participation in the civil rights movement because Bernie Sanders is inherently an oppressor. He was an oppressor in the womb and nothing that he can do, including standing in the corner staring at his shoes while his own rally is coopted, can change that.  
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 05:38:27 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2015, 03:19:43 PM »

Why protest "all lives matter?" Do you disagree with that statement?

You had a good post, but I just wanted to single out this one part, as I'd been thinking specifically about it.

The problem with "All lives matter" isn't that it's not true, or that the BLM people don't believe it. It's that answering "Black lives matter" with "all lives matter" comes across like a glib attempt to co-opt the issue, and to subtly cast aspersions on the people who weren't saying it in the first place. The reason people felt the need to say "Black lives matter" in the first place is that society has seemed to have policies that indicate black lives matter less than other types of lives.

It's the same as if you say rather than feminism, we should have humanism. All well and good and kumbayah-ish, but it feels like an attempt to distract that there are very real inequities between men and women that deserve to be called out separately, and not just lumped into the human condition.

This. Saying "All lives matter!" to a BLM activist is like going up to someone trying to raise money to cure cancer and saying "all diseases are bad!"

Almost. It's like your analogy except the the people trying to cure cancer are only concerned with raising money to help cure cancer for individuals who happen to be black and completely ignoring the fact that, not only are the majority of people who die from cancer are white, but also that cancer, like police killings, is a tragedy no matter who it affects and that everyone deserves sympathy.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/?page=all


The BLM movement didn't care about Kelly Thomas or James Boyd because they were white men who were killed by police unjustly. Maybe if it had a more inclusive message, white people might start listening to their grievances.

You know full well that the issue is black people being killed disproportionately more than white people, compared to their share of the population.

Clearly the solution is for the police to start killing more white people until parity has been achieved.
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