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  [November 7, 2023] Ohio Abortion Referendum Megathread (search mode)
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Question: By what margin do you think the Ohio Right to Make Reproductive Decisions Including Abortion Initiative will pass/fail?
#1
Greater than Yes+20%
 
#2
Between Yes+20% and Yes+15%
 
#3
Between Yes+15% and Yes+10%
 
#4
Between Yes+10% and Yes+5%
 
#5
Less than Yes+5%
 
#6
Less than No+5%
 
#7
Between No+5% and No+10%
 
#8
Between No+10% and No+15%
 
#9
Between No+15% and No+20%
 
#10
Greater than No+20%
 
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Partisan results

Total Voters: 90

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100% pro-life no matter what
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E: 7.35, S: 5.57


« on: August 23, 2023, 10:24:27 AM »

I think yes wins a close race (hope I'm wrong).  I don't think we can directly compare "no right to abortion" referendums like KS or KY to "right to abortion" referendums like MI or CA.  There seem to be some people who would vote "no" on both of those for whatever reason.  I don't think "yes" would have won this referendum in Kentucky last year, despite the fact that "no" barely won the "no right to abortion" one.

I'll say 53-47 yes.  Hope I'm wrong.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2023, 10:58:11 PM »

Using fetus outside of a conversation between doctors and/or nurses in a medical facility obscures the issue.  No one else talks about their pregnancy like that.  This was a reasonable change.

I can't think of a single instance when I or anyone I know have used the term unborn child. It's a loaded political term. They knew exactly what they were doing. It's also not reasonable at all when the actual text of the amendment uses the term fetus (you know, the language that would actually be adopted into the state constitution if passed). It's a medical procedure. The summary distorts and omits important information. There's no reason why they couldn't have put the full text of the amendment on the ballot other than the fact that those with the power to do so wanted to tilt the playing field to their side.

I've heard non-political ads for pills warning against pregnant women taking that pill because "it may cause harm or death to an unborn baby".  That ad certainly wasn't intended to convey a message about abortion.  Most people don't actually call it a fetus, instead a baby.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2023, 04:28:23 PM »

The exit polls say that the electorate yesterday was Biden +2 in 2020.  We would have lost both referendums regardless, but we clearly have an off-year turnout problem when a Biden +2 electorate shows up in a Trump +8 state.
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