Iran tests new precision-guided ballistic missile

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Obama probably got hard when he read this. He'll be happy to do absolutely nothing if Iran attacks Israel while he's still president.

Oh, brother.  An unprovoked missile attack on Israel would benefit Israel infinitely.

Anyway last time I checked Israel doesn't pay any US taxes.  It's time for them to clean up their own messes... on their own dime.  And Europe is closer geographically to Israel than the US.  And there are more European Jews in Israel than American Jews.  Why do you bring up Obama's name?  Why don't you bring up Mark Rutte's name?  Quit bringing up Obama's name in your mess.

hahahahahahaha. I love it. U.S. Foreign policy helps overthrow Mosadegh in the 50's, and then lets the Shah fall in the '70s...yet iran being run by mental nut cases is the Jews fault. Get a grip on reality.

This is a uniquely American and British problem.

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hahahahahahaha. I love it. U.S. Foreign policy helps overthrow Mosadegh in the 50's, and then lets the Shah fall in the '70s...yet iran being run by mental nut cases is the Jews fault. Get a grip on reality.

This is a uniquely American and British problem.

Once again, ignoring Europe's role in the overthrow of the Iranian government.  Seriously, you live in Europe.  Talk to the European leaders about your perceived problems.  Quit crying to the US every time you stub your toe.  It's been decades.  Time to grow up.

1. I'm American, so no...I don't live in Europe (and even if you are going by my avatar...I don't live in Israel, which is also not in Europe).
2. "Preceived Problems"? You honestly have to be a certain type of naive to believe Iran is not dangerous.
3. You are, along with Green Line, the one who needs to grow up. America is the greatest country in the world, far and above, but that does not mean it cannot be criticized. The same goes for Israel (before you falsely accuse me of being an Israel-firster).

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You are right, it was also the UK who was heavily involved in the overthrow, but that doesn't let the U.S. off the hook, either.

Also, I do not see the world in black and white..you, however, clearly do. This idea that Iran is not a threat to peace and stability across the world is ridiculous. They are definitely more dangerous then "a smoke detector with a weak battery." You are proving my point that you are extremely naive on Iran. Also, I have not once advocated for military action or war with Iran.

The policy of using foreign aid as a leash on American allies needs to end. Our allies should not be treated like puppies that need to be put in line. Not only that, if you have issues with Israeli criticism of President Obama's Anti-Israel stances then you surely also have a problem with allies like Saudi Arabia and Egypt burning American flags (and in the case of Saudi Arabia...potentially being a massive funder of ISIS).

I would say those two are much more problematic then Israeli criticism, which comes in a legitimate, democratic forum. But, it seems like you are someone who thinks any dissent should be punished, so it's like arguing with a fascist.

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Making too much sense? Please grow up. Nothing anyone, from either side, has said in this thread is fact. Yet, the sheer arrogance displayed by a few of you is truly mind blowing.

It is the definition of antisemitism to try neuter the effects of the holocaust. I don't really care how you counter this or how butthurt you get over it.

Of course the holocaust is not the only tragic genocide in human history. There have been many more genocides in the past and, sadly, in the present going on. (Armenian Genocide, Rwandan Genocide, etc...)

But, like all of those groups, we, as Jews, have a damn right to talk about it. But, again, everything goes back to us evil Jews with the money. It's always about the money with people like you. A success of a Jew is not directly correlated to the suffering of others. Sorry, you antisemite, you do not get to make false and untrue correlations like this.

- Israel receiving foreign aid did not prevent international recognition of the Armenian genocide; international, including Israel, ignorance has.
- Israel receiving foreign aid did not cause the Rwandan genocide to occur. International ignorance, again Israel included, did.
- Israel receiving foreign aid did not cause Apartheid South Africa to remain in power for so long. International ignorance, once again including Israel, did.
- Israel receiving foreign aid did not cause the genocide of the Congolese...I'm sure you get my point by now.

I don't try and put Israel on some ridiculous pedestal. But I will call out antisemitism when I see it. And Schadenfreude, you are an antisemite. Your logical fallacies and strawman arguments don't fly with me. I'm sure if flies with the fascist right and the academic far-left, but I am neither.

Also, your bizarre and borderline insane ranting on the 1953 coup is deliciously pathetic. The U.S. helped put the Shah in POWER, therefore when he is allowed to fall and psychopaths replace him...it is not a stretch to claim that the U.S.  has some responsibility in it. Same goes for Europe.

Your slandering of Israel and Europe is adorable because you refuse to ever admit America is wrong. I love America, it's my home...but I can admit when we have made mistakes. The 1953 coup was a mistake and a black stain on the American legacy.

Israel is the Jewish homeland, and I have close ties to it, but I can admit when it is wrong. The Sabra and Shatila massacre was a mistake and a black stain on the Israeli legacy.

But, I'm done arguing with someone who is clearly going to continue making ridiculous comparisons and statements.

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Also, the US did not "stop the holocaust". The Allies stopped the regime perpetrating it, thus ending it, for separate reasons. The claim of anything else is a lie.

And I am SO sick and tired of people who think bringing up other "obscure genocides" as a gotcha to Jews is some sort of legitimate point. Jews aren't the ones keeping the Congolese genocide from people's minds - it's the textbook companies making sure their books are palatable to a widely white audience. And none of that changes the fact that a full third of the world's Jews were wiped out in less than ten years. Get out of here with that Oppression Olympics BS.

Amen. Schadenfreude is just proving that he's an antisemite.