Governor Never Again Impeachment

[NeverAgain]

Aw, I was hoping for a Supreme Court Case.

I was not asking for you to solely delete your legislation, I merely asked to put it at the end of the queue or to delete it all together, as we MUST establish true rules before all else.

On the issue of perceived executive overreach, my "threat" was that Mr. Kenobi move the legislation to the end of the queue so we can focus on the rules, before moving it back, or I would've opened an emergency slot on the rules, as the Speaker has and as federal precedent, under Pres. Yankee, holds.

I would never, repeat NEVER, demand or force a delegate delete their legislation or I will delete it for them, but these pieces of legislation, along with those of delegates of my own party, cannot and should not be seen as as important to setting the ground rules for this chamber.

I singled out these pieces, as first, they lack the vetting and support of other members of the Chamber, showing them to be desires wanted by one Delegate and not the urgent wishes of the Chamber. And two, these were not live and die issues. I personally believe I can live a couple more days without having milk as the regional drink.

But, you are absolutely right as I didn't make it clear, as I should of for this important subject, that this was a push to talk about the rules, and not to decimate everything its path.

In the future, we should all clarify with each other, myself included. I thank Mr. Kenobi for keeping everyone on track here, though.

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I think any legal mind or mind with the ability to comprehend basic law would think this. I am not only the Governor of this region, but also a former Delegate who went through the problems that arise from dangerously unclear rules.

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We have spent now weeks not able to get to any legislation because of these rules. The time for waiting is over. You may feel it is desirable to wait possibly months until we can establish clear operating procedure and are not at risk of constitutional crisis every time a problem arises, but I cannot. This is not a question of my desire to detract legislation, this is about morality. And it is not moral to waste the lives of all Southern citizens when we cannot establish how we clearly proceed.

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No, my rationale was, if we cannot establish operating procedure, then we cannot do anything. Agree or disagree with any bills ahead of these rules, we cannot do a thing unless we are able to have set understanding of the procedure on which to proceed.

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Did I demand anyone withdraw legislation, or I would do it myself? No. I asked that we move all legislation, singling out those seen as obviously frivolous in the comparison to the scope of what affects Southerners lives, to the back of the queue, or the sponsor could remove it, if they so desired. Or else I would, using President Yankee's EO as precedent, move the proposed rules to an emergency slot, as he did to continue the process of the legislature's movement and to administer the executive authority, is endowed by the national Constitution, as is in our regional Constitution.

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It doesn't matter what the  Yankee did. Giving the Governor the authority to bypass the current rules of the chamber and the wishes of the chamber itself sets up a dangerous precedent.

Would you mind finding where exactly it states in the rules the Governor cannot use their executive authority, bestowed to him or her by the Constitution, in the pursuit of setting up an emergency slot for legislation?

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Would you mind finding me exactly where in the Constitution it states you have the authority to do this?

If we're reading the rules correctly, any Southern Citizen, Governor or otherwise, can. The Rules of Order as they now exist clearly give power to the Speaker to "organize... functions as deemed necessary". What was discussed was having the Legislature create an emergency slot, and the Speaker has used her power to do such entirely legally through the rules, that are done through Article 4, Section 9's allowing the legislature to establish their own rules.

[NeverAgain]

Would you mind finding me exactly where in the Constitution it states you have the authority to do this?

If we're reading the rules correctly, any Southern Citizen, Governor or otherwise, can. The Rules of Order as they now exist clearly give power to the Speaker to "organize... functions as deemed necessary". What was discussed was having the Legislature create an emergency slot, and the Speaker has used her power to do such entirely legally through the rules, that are done through Article 4, Section 9's allowing the legislature to establish their own rules.

Yes, but you threatened the Chamber into doing this.

With what? I said that legislation will need to be rearranged or we'd have to pursue an emergency slot for the rules. If that's a threat these days, then goodness gracious, people are becoming soft.

[NeverAgain]

You told the Speaker that either she was going to open an emergency slot or you were. You stepped over the line. You had no authority to do this.

Asking the Speaker to make an emergency slot, and then theoretically authorizing it through an EO is a threat? I didn't threaten the Speaker, and any claims of this is hearsay. If you have any questions about what the Constitutional roles of the Governor are, or the current (soon-to-be changed, we can only hope) rules are, you are more then welcome to read them yourself. I feel like this has gone from stating I was threatening Ben, to theoretically issuing an unconstitutional EO, to threatening fhtagn, all of which are entirely ridiculous of you read what I said and am saying.

If you have a complaint, PM me or sue me yourself. I am done playing games.

[NeverAgain]

As I have attempted to solve your answers in PMs, but it seems there is confusion. I think that the only other option to console your grievances is to sue me, so either do so, or stop tarnishing the Executive Office's name with your pretenses.