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NeverAgain
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 06, 2017, 01:22:52 PM »

x NeverAgain, Speaker of the House of Representatives.
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2017, 10:49:26 PM »

The chairman stays above interparty politics, the vicechairman is the attack dog. Luckily Truman is too nice to be one, and just says the truth.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 12:59:27 PM »

I renominate Blair for Chair, and Truman for Vice Chair.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 10:49:27 PM »

For Chair
[X] Blair

[ ] LongLiveRock

[ ] JustintimeCuber

[ ] Peebs

Vice Chair

[X] Truman

[] Mike Wells

[ ] JustintimeCuber

[ ] Peebs
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NeverAgain
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2017, 09:45:42 PM »

I nominate Cheyenne, WY.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 08:23:28 PM »

[ X ] Cheyenne, Wyoming
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2017, 04:13:18 PM »

Cheyenne!
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 07:47:51 PM »

I motion for amending the rules to add this following clause in the Labor party rules
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Thank god for democracy right?!

Seriously, though, if this is about me. Every candidate campaigns. I sent out PM's. We didn't win. I could've and should've done more. But to think that a political party has the right to stop me, or any other candidate from being a candidate, because that political party leader either views that candidate to not be campaigning or has a vendetta against that person, is entirely and wholeheartedly ridiculous.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2017, 08:01:57 PM »

I motion for amending the rules to add this following clause in the Labor party rules
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Thank god for democracy right?!

Seriously, though, if this is about me. Every candidate campaigns. I sent out PM's. We didn't win. I could've and should've done more. But to think that a political party has the right to stop me, or any other candidate from being a candidate, because that political party leader either views that candidate to not be campaigning or has a vendetta against that person, is entirely and wholeheartedly ridiculous.
Well, yes it is against you. I like you at personal level and I don't have any personal vendettas against you, but you clearly sucked as a candidate and you should have been replaced before the happening of this disaster.

I entirely blame myself for the loss, but to think that I sucked as a candidate is a bit of a stretch. You are more than welcome to tell me who you would've put instead, eh, never mind, it really doesn't matter. You see me as who you want to see me.

The campaign was extremely close. If you have suggestions on how we as a party can improve, instead of bashing a former standard bearer, please message myself, I usually don't "suck" at reading comprehension, or Truman, Blair, or Adam who would more than love to increase our base.

Losing does not make you bad. Or "suck". I do not consider Truman to be a bad campaigner, I don't consider Blair to be a bad campaigner, I don't consider anyone who has put themselves forward as a candidate for President and not succeeded to be a bad campaigner.

On the flip side, I do have the utmost respect for you, and understand that you have a way of lashing out and acting very (expletive)ish, something that you openly admit. We as Labor are a family, as I see it, we have our ups and we have our downs, we have our problems, but we also come together for solutions. Please join the solution.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2017, 08:46:41 PM »

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God, I'd hope not. I am glad you enjoy my qualities (glad things have changed in eyes regarding Lumine's game that I am not longer "screwing up" China).

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You are going to have to clarify what "efficient campaigning" is, because sending PM's to everyone and their mother no matter their political affiliation is the very antonym of "efficiency". I would argue that I was too efficient, ignoring key voters in the pursuit of voters I felt were going to be swing or expanding our base, and we had great successes there. I am not going to argue with you on the idea that I didn't campaign to everyone, I didn't and that was a mistake I openly admit.

I am actually laughing a bit at the idea that leaders of the Labor party met in "closed doors" to replace me on the ticket, whether it happened or not, I really don't care. The smart thing to do would've been to confront me on this, and tell me what I could be doing better, instead of supposedly meeting behind my back with the goal of finding a better candidate.

Going back a bit to what you said on the demographic "advantage", or the so-called "20 vote majority". Yes we have more votes, but when you factor that with the HIGH amount of Federalist leaning indies, along with the Federalists that we have in our own party (Purple heart Santander), this is not a majority, nor even a plurality. I messaged about 80 people, you were not on that list, as my "efficiency" assumed you were all set to go for voting.

If there is one thing I have most definitely learned - Never Assume.

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I mean I think the better thing to do is to reference what I said earlier, tell the candidate to make a change, instead of letting them fail on their own and say "we told you so", "we should've replaced you". That is pretty darn idiotic.

I don't feel I am a bad campaigner, nor inefficient in my PMing. I lost. DFW stayed up long hours and won the election, and that's that. So, we can Monday night quarterback all we want, but is really stating for the entire Labor party that I "suck" and am extremely bad at campaigning assisting the goal of attempting to push Atlasia to a new generation of active, engaged folk? No.

This will be my last PM for, as someone who has a bit of a temper at times this riled me a bit, so I am going to cool them down a bit. Anyways, I look forward to some constructive criticism.

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