Why are tankies and hyper-wokesters defensive of Imperial Japan?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Of all the regimes in history you'd never expect to see defended by the left...that's only second to its ally Nazi Germany. But these people are fond of arguing that the US basically provoked Pearl Harbor and that Japan was victimized by the US' sanctions and embargo...which the US only implemented to try to stave off Japan's brutal genocidal imperialistic campaign in east Asia and the Pacific.

It's downright surreal.

Tbh I mainly just don't see much discussion period of Imperial Japan, either defensive or dissecting its many nasty traits. I'm curious to see where you're seeing this point being made.

With how a lot of people dislike the fact that the nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan, that alone could encourage some level of whitewashing of Imperial Japan if one pushed that far enough. "Japan was a victim" etc etc
(Not that it wasn't, but Imperial Japan's rough edges are just not universally known)

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Well hyper-wokesters are self-parodying morons, and as for tankies, it's entirely consistent for them to be defensive of the worst regimes in modern history.

Imperial Japan's rough edges

...seriously?!

I needed very general phrasing since I was referring to something very general.
Take your silly outrage elsewhere.
EDIT: it seems you greatly misunderstood. I was using that in very broad terms to mean "roughest parts", because there was a lot of it and it would be hard to summarize it easily.
If you wanted to talk in-depth about all the most scarring things they did, it'd be pretty hard to do without getting voluminous.
I've never actually seen the phrase used by anyone.
I suggest "Supernova in the East" for more information on this time period.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Well hyper-wokesters are self-parodying morons, and as for tankies, it's entirely consistent for them to be defensive of the worst regimes in modern history.

Imperial Japan's rough edges

...seriously?!

I needed very general phrasing since I was referring to something very general.
Take your silly outrage elsewhere.
EDIT: it seems you greatly misunderstood. I was using that in very broad terms to mean "roughest parts", because there was a lot of it and it would be hard to summarize it easily.
If you wanted to talk in-depth about all the most scarring things they did, it'd be pretty hard to do without getting voluminous.
I've never actually seen the phrase used by anyone.
I suggest "Supernova in the East" for more information on this time period.

What kind of arrogant, condescending nonsense is this?

I mean, I could talk for hours on this topic.
It'd be nice if you were more specific about what you were saying about what I was saying, though.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The Bataan Death March, at least, is surely very well known and 'Japanese Prisoner of War Camp' continues have certain connotations, at least in this country.

Yes. And when a country's military is known for things that are literally called the Bataan Death March and the Rape of Nanking (to pick two examples), "roughness" is a polite euphemism at best.

You are getting mad at someone who has (online and IRL) defended the nukes being dropped on Japan partially on grounds that (to oversimplify) "practically everything up until then that was done to Japan, it had already done to someone else". Please, for sake of my time and yours, let this up.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The Bataan Death March, at least, is surely very well known and 'Japanese Prisoner of War Camp' continues have certain connotations, at least in this country.

Yes. And when a country's military is known for things that are literally called the Bataan Death March and the Rape of Nanking (to pick two examples), "roughness" is a polite euphemism at best.

You are getting mad at someone who has (online and IRL) defended the nukes being dropped on Japan partially on grounds that (to oversimplify) "practically everything up until then that was done to Japan, it had already done to someone else". Please, for sake of my time and yours, let this up.

"Everyone's war crimes are perfectly excusable!"

So that's the angle you are going with? Hilarious. You won't engage what I'm saying, so you do ad hominem instead. Your arguments are now weaker than the Japanese navy's ability to  do an amphibious assault and invasion of the United States mainland in July 1945. At least the Japanese still had some ships then!

In any case, I've called Imperial Japan the bad guys of the Pacific War before and been quite harsh with my words when talking about them on some occasions, it is quite clear y'all are just being hysterical and silly. Concrete claims have been made and disproved. If you want to go on with this you may as well paint your faces white and red.

The Bataan Death March, at least, is surely very well known and 'Japanese Prisoner of War Camp' continues have certain connotations, at least in this country.

Remember the polling some time ago that showed awareness of the Holocaust not really at ideal levels? This is the passage of time speaking. I don't think the Bataan Death March is necessarily very well known in the youngest generation. The average 25-year-old would sooner have an opinion on, say, the War on Iraq than the Pacific War. And there's a lot of nasty but not-so-famous stuff (like American POWs being killed in big numbers in brutal ways in 1944, for example) that one cannot necessarily assume any awareness of whatsoever.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I see some Brazilian Stalin fans in the Twitter. Nobody supports Imperial Japan.

This is largely an anglosphere thing:

1) White guilt in North America, the UK, and Australia
2) English-speaking Indians who hold favorable views of Imperial Japan because it fought the British Empire and supported Indian independence
2a) Weird misdirected anti-colonialism in other former British colonies

It doesn't surprise me that none of these would show up in the Portuguese-language Internet

No, even soft apologism for Imperial Japan is really not a thing here at all. Bad blood from the War was sufficient that it was quite common to hear expressions such as 'they're a cruel race' from quite liberal people as recently as the 1990s, while mainstream interest in Japanese culture is still quite a new thing here. The only thing I've seen is some silly stuff from one well-known university about captured Japanese flags from the War being imperialist booty or some such nonsense. Otherwise, nothing. I think that to the small amount it is a thing in North America it is mostly due to guilt at having put local Japanese populations in concentration camps leading to a rather catastrophic loss of perspective.

It would probably be relevant in this context that Japan and America drew quite close in the post-war era, while Anglo-Japanese friendship was something that has never been as strong as it was in the pre-1920s period (a very different time, obviously). Japan and Britain are not really very closely associated states in the modern age.