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President Punxsutawney Phil
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« on: May 03, 2022, 06:05:19 AM »

Sure, but even with the Covid bump fading, that is just a lot of ground to make up in one election. I could see it happening but I am skeptical that National can pull it off.
Do you expect a result more in line with 2005?
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2022, 07:22:18 AM »

Sure, but even with the Covid bump fading, that is just a lot of ground to make up in one election. I could see it happening but I am skeptical that National can pull it off.
Do you expect a result more in line with 2005?

Basically. Luxon also comes across as a bit of an idiot, though maybe not in a politically harmful way. It is still early in his leadership and people are focused on many other things instead of learning more about him, so Labour can always hope he underperforms in a campaign if it is not already decided either way.
I get the sense a lot would have to wrong for National for them to get a sub-35 seat count two elections in a row. The real question, generally speaking, is how much they rebound. Of course, 2023 is still more than a year away.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2023, 02:35:11 AM »

Luxon has ruled out working with the Maori Party. This confirms what was always likely, that the outcome shown in most polls-where neither bloc can govern without Maori Party support, means a re-elected Labour government. If there is an impact, it should boost the Maori Party slightly while hurting Labour with moderate Pakeha voters.
Could Labour rule it out as well? What’s their thinking about the Māori Party?

Labour clearly regard the Maori Party as a potential support partner, they have been playing nice. They and the Speaker generously interpreted the law around defecting MPs so that Meka Whaitiri was not automatically expelled from Parliament as perhaps she should have been.

National is using this to start a 'coalition of chaos' attack on Labour, which you'd find familiar. I think it's less credible to use against an incumbent majority government, especially when David Seymour and maybe even Winston Peters are still support partners for National.
Oh, what are the chances New Zealand First gets into Parliament?
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