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BundouYMB
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« on: June 07, 2016, 08:38:30 PM »

Anybody else want to contest my call of Clinton for SD? Wink

Sioux Falls and Pierre is most of the state, and we have basically nothing. I still think it's up in the air.

46% of the vote is reporting, though. How is that "basically nothing"?
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BundouYMB
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2016, 08:43:02 PM »

Anybody else want to contest my call of Clinton for SD? Wink

Sioux Falls and Pierre is most of the state, and we have basically nothing. I still think it's up in the air.

46% of the vote is reporting, though. How is that "basically nothing"?

Statewide is 27%. (I stopped trusting AOS months ago and refuse to use them for anything if you're referring to that site)

Um, I'm on the NYT website and 49% of the vote is in: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results

What are you looking at?
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BundouYMB
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2016, 08:48:49 PM »

Rofl lmao the difference between North and South dakota results wtf

Ah the difference between when real elections are held vs. caucuses that can only be attended by rich white people.
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BundouYMB
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2016, 11:21:25 PM »

Montana flipped because most of Missoula came in. But none of Yellowstone (Billings) is in yet. Could easily flip back to Clinton.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 09:26:05 PM »
« Edited: June 24, 2016, 09:30:23 PM by BundouYMB »

Anyone who thinks the AP call had any effect whatsoever on the race is completely deluded.

a). The media had already effectively been discussing the race as if it was over -- because it was. Do you really think several news outlets declaring her the "presumptive nominee" is anything but an extremely minor, likely unnoticeable, technicality to the 99% of people who don't follow politics closely?

b). "Momentum", i.e. how likely it looked each candidate would win, had zero effect in previous contests. Even when the race was being discussed as effectively over after the CT/PA/DE/MD/RI results Sanders still beat his polls in Indiana.

c). Why would an announcement that Clinton clinched be more likely to effect one set of supporters over the other to begin with? There is zero evidence that it would & it doesn't even make sense on a facile level that it would.

d). Setting aside how these hypothetical discouraged voters would vote, is there even the slightest bit of circumstantial evidence that any voters were discouraged? Turnout in the primary is actually going to be higher than in 2008 when counting is done, and in 2008 the CA primary was held on Super Tuesday, when the Presidential nomination race was as competitive as could be.

Oh, but I'm suuuuuure if only the AP hadn't officially called a race that everyone already knew was over I'm sure another 1,000,000 people would have found their way to the polls and voted 80-20 Sanders. I'm sure.
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