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Zen Lunatic
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« on: January 03, 2016, 05:16:19 PM »
« edited: January 03, 2016, 05:17:58 PM by Zen Lunatic »

One thing that I've observed is that in practice Hillary appeals to very few people. Obviously conservatives of all stripes hate her, most progressives and people on the left do as well where she's seen (correctly IMO) as one of the people most responsible for moving Democrats to the right. She doesn't seem to have much appeal to the working class (white or otherwise) and while her strength is purported to be highest among ethnic minorities I can't see there really be much love there either, especially with her cynical hispandering and the fact that she was a big supporter of broken windows policing in the 90s. The only group that really seems to like her are upper middle class liberal feminist types who just identify with her and they aren't really a significant demographic. I also think that the country in general is in an anti-establishment mood and there's no way that she would be doing as well in the Democratic primary as she is if they weren't trying deliberately to rig the process for her and done everything possible to prevent a competitive primary for the sake of some ed up seniority.

The only way that she wins is the toxicity of a Trump or Cruz.
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Zen Lunatic
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2016, 05:51:25 PM »

She is a center-left Democrat. I don't know if a socialist can win in today's America, unless if Trump or Cruz is the nominee. Her toughest GOP opponent is Rubio, Kasich, but they are not leading with the base of the G.O.P. right now. She could do well against Marco Rubio especially if his scandals from Florida arise.

I think the country is in an anti-establishment mood though and that an outsider like Sanders who actually strikes people as genuine and talks about issues like income inequality would be more exciting then Hillary in spite of how he labels himself.
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Zen Lunatic
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2016, 05:53:23 PM »

Stating that most progressives hate Hillary Clinton is so fantastically wrong that it is little surprise that your conclusion is equally as ridiculous. All polling shows that her approval ratings among liberals and self described progressives are sky high, and she's even broadly popular among Sanders supporters.

I think that's only because many have resigned themselves to the fact that she's going to be the nominee so they have to feign excitement. If there was actually a fair primary process that hadn't been rigged in Hillary's favor the picture might look different.
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