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« on: May 21, 2021, 10:37:42 PM »

I still can’t believe that VT was the most D state in 2020 (the first time ever that it gave the Democratic candidate their largest margin of victory).
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2022, 12:19:37 PM »

To those with some perspective, do you envision the state shifting notably to the right in 2022 or the near future (e.g. in the next GOP popular vote win in a presidential race)? In theory, Vermont seems like a state where Democratic margins still seem extremely inflated even by New England standards, even when taking into account cultural and non-racial demographic factors (esp. irreligion & college education). I’m aware that sociocultural factors and adoption of or conformity with local/communal values in particular are underrated as a force in this entire 'trends' discourse (case in point: RGV, Miami-Dade, etc.), but this is not a state where the GOP should be confined to the low 30s in federal races.
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2022, 12:59:24 PM »

I think the main problem for the GOP in Vermont is their stance on social issues. Vermonters are largely pro-choice, for example, so a party that advocates for abortion bans is not going to do especially well there. Just because Vermont is very rural and white doesn't mean it's conservative. Even when it was a safe R state it had some of the most liberal Republicans in the country, and still does with Phil Scott. That's not to say it won't trend right, but I don't think the RGV is a very good comparison.

I wasn’t comparing VT to the RGV, I was just pointing out that cultural factors and community influence can help explain 'outliers' such as the pace/extent of the RGV trend, the erratic swing in Miami-Dade (hence the Trump campaign extensively targeting that area through social media), or VT still being so uniformly Democratic.

I don’t think social issues can explain that entire margin, though. NH is just as pro-choice as VT and even many of its rural/small-town areas are noticeably less Democratic than those in VT (and are likely to trend rightward this year), although the most Democratic parts are of course located along the NH/VT border and in the Connecticut River Valley. I’d be particularly interested what it is about the latter that makes that region so Democratic (we’re also seeing this in Western MA).

At the very least, you’d expect many of these towns to vote closer to demographically similar places in the northern interior region of ME, but it’s not even remotely close.
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