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DavidB.
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« on: July 07, 2019, 05:26:13 PM »

None of these horrible things - this horrible murder case, all the other horrible murder and rape cases - would have happened if Merkel had just kept the border closed.

Interesting, though, that the left didn't give a damn when 14-year old Susanna Feldmann from Mainz was raped and killed by one of Merkel's immigrants. AfD were the only ones who cared.
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2019, 05:56:28 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2019, 06:02:43 PM by DavidB. »

None of these horrible things - this horrible murder case, all the other horrible murder and rape cases - would have happened if Merkel had just kept the border closed.

I understand you oppose that Merkel opened the borders for Syrian refugees, although I admire her for doing so (while oppose many of her policies). However, your claim is unacceptable as you are justifying the murder of the CDU politician, charging Merkel for the moral responsibility and trying to relativize the horrible crime by diluting it in a wave of alleged rapes and murders. This is a good example of moral relativism and slander.  
Your comment is "slander", because I am justifying absolutely nothing. Murdering people is never justified. And murdering politicians endangers our democracies. This murder case is indeed horrible and the moral responsibility lies with the perpetrator. Let there be no misunderstanding about this.

At the same time, Merkel's decision to open the borders and welcome waves and waves of young men from different cultures that clash with ours, men who often don't respect ours, was always going to lead to ethnic tensions and regrettable cases of violent outbursts (for which the perpetrators remain responsible). This case is one of these horrible consequences.

Meanwhile, you don't care about the cases of rape and murder perpetrated by immigrants. You really don't care. So your sudden condemnation of this case is opportunism-driven - "look how bad those right-wingers are" - and hypocritical.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2019, 06:16:33 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2019, 06:31:33 PM by DavidB. »

You are justifying the crime with your allegations. Hatred for immigrants may lead to moral relativism and eventually (in extreme cases) to hate crimes. It's a wrong direction.
With the same type of reasoning, I could say you are justifying the murder and rape of Susanna Feldmann, justifying the mass attacks on women in Cologne and all across our continent. But I wouldn't say that.

However, yes, it is because of people like you, who are willing to endanger the basic safety of our peoples, that this 14-year Jewish girl wasn't safe in Germany. If it were up to you, she would also not be safe in Israel. So your moral panic really doesn't faze me. Your direction is wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2019, 06:27:09 PM »

You literally did and then deleted your post two minutes later.
I suddenly remembered Michelle Obama's beautiful comment and decided to rephrase.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2019, 07:26:16 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2019, 07:37:54 PM by DavidB. »

The only people who tend to use my background against me are left-wingers, and remarks from people like you only serve to make sure dissenting minorities slavishly return to the left-wing fold. My contacts with people within AfD have been more than pleasant. Those thousands of ordinary AfD members aren't even remotely similar to East German neo-Nazis wrecking havoc.

Just last month, AfD Hamburg invited Orit Arfa. And following the murder of Susanna Feldmann, AfD were the only party who genuinely showed sympathy to the point where they thought cases like these should affect policymaking. The way other MPs rejected this minute of silence was disgusting (though unsurprising). I'm glad deportation laws have been tightened but come on, last month? It's all too little, too late, and the influx should never have happened in the first place - and AfD remain the only opposition party and the only party aiming to prevent such cases by tightening immigration laws.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2019, 11:42:14 AM »

Which is why I think dictating people's lives based on an inaccurate and essentialist conception of nationality, while bemoaning the existence of class is deeply hypocritical
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