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DavidB.
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« on: January 12, 2017, 10:36:03 AM »

FG. G-d doesn't want us to fap. Of course it's ridiculous to think masturbation causes depression, but they will find out themselves. And maybe the placebo effect will make them more motivated and happier. If someone doesn't feel good, making a harmless change in their life they believe will help them may actually help change their mindset.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2017, 08:37:22 PM »

HG.  Let's dispel with this fiction that masturbation is somehow unhealthy, abnormal, etc.  Time for Murica to shed its prudish, Puritanical past and join the 21st century.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2017, 09:31:38 PM »

Love it when random people on the internet look up the first Google result and think they know more about halachic debates than I. Hint: you don't.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2017, 09:50:10 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2017, 09:52:12 PM by DavidB. »

Love it when random people on the internet look up the first Google result and think they know more about halachic debates than I. Hint: you don't.
Then explain why Maimonides was wrong.
He's not, but you're misunderstanding his argument. Maimonides states that the Tanakh does not ban [male] masturbation, which is true. However, the Talmud, on which Jewish law is largely based, does, and this has also been codified in the Shulchan Aruch which is nowadays almost universally considered to be authoritative.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2017, 09:53:43 PM »

Love it when random people on the internet look up the first Google result and think they know more about halachic debates than I. Hint: you don't.
Then explain why Maimonides was wrong.
Maimonides states that the Tanakh does not ban [male] masturbation, which is true. However, the Talmud, on which Jewish law is largely based, does, and this has also been codified in the Shulchan Aruch which is nowadays almost universally considered to be authoritative.
Give the specific passage.
I could, but I'm not going to give you Jewish lessons while unremunerated. I think you and I both know you don't know anything about this subject, so we'd have to start at a much more basic level. You can PM me if you're interested.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2017, 11:48:49 PM »

Ftr Jewish law on female masturbation is much, much more ambiguous than a simple "nofap" to the point where there's no real agreement on whether it's not allowed -- and those who do say it's not allowed also agree that it's much less ~problematic~ than if men do it
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