Which of these best describes your views regarding transgender individuals? (user search)
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  Which of these best describes your views regarding transgender individuals? (search mode)
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Question: Thought we should get an actual measure of Atlas on this topic
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Transgenderism is completely made up
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Transgenderism is a mental illness and should be treated as such - no reassignment surgery or recongization of a new gender should be provided
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Transgenderism is a fully real thing and we should treat people according to their new gender, although allowing them into their new gender's bathroom or locker room may be too risky
#4
Transgenderism is a fully real thing and we should treat people according to their new gender, including in terms of bathroom and locker room access
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DavidB.
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« on: December 31, 2016, 11:12:02 AM »
« edited: December 31, 2016, 11:14:51 AM by DavidB. »

4, but I feel I'm still in the process of "getting it"/understanding it even though I've learned a lot. I don't know any trans people irl. Before Atlas I was at positions 1 and 2 (which are not mutually exclusive), and without Atlas/getting to know trans people online and reading about their experiences, I'd probably still be.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2017, 11:49:03 AM »

As for the bathroom debate, go to Europe. Public restrooms are unisex with lockable doors. No reason we can't do that here more and defang the debate, which has reasonable concerns on both sides

Far from a universal thing; common in small places like restaurants or wee cafes where you have no space so having two separate toilet rooms is the best use of space and at that point why bother gendering them (although lots of places still do, it baffles me) but lots of public conveniences are gendered and big multi-cubicle rooms.

They seemed pretty universal in bigger public accommodations in Sweden (department stores, train station, etc)

Sweden =/= Europe though; Europe is a very big diverse place and things are different wherever you go.  I've never seen what you've seen in the places I've been (the UK, Belgium, Strasbourg, Berlin, Krakow and Lithuania - clarifying cities when I've only ever been to a single place in a country).
Yeah, been to over 20 countries in Europe by now (I think) and this isn't common at all.
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