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« on: February 22, 2006, 05:38:57 AM »

I don't usually like these polls, but this guy is worthy of debate

I, of course, vote Horrible Person. He was a puritanical intolerant, a perpetator of regicide (yes, he was supposedly a Christian yet he santioned the execution of a God-annointed king), who brutally suppressed those who stood in his way. Not to mention his acts against the Irish

I reckon even modern-day leftists would have fought for their King against this tyrant

A thoroughly Horrible Person (both inside and out!)

Dave

What do you mean, "puritanical intolerant"? Cromwell legalized Judaism for the first time since the Middle Ages, and tolerated every sect of Christianity except Roman Catholicism.

Besides, all that Jacobian "divine-right" garbage was a French invention, anyway.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2006, 05:55:37 AM »


Cromwell ... tolerated every sect of Christianity except Roman Catholicism.


There you have it, an intolerant

Dave

I like you, you're a good person, but it must be said: Be for real, Dave.

In the 17th century, Roman Catholicism was almost a "Religion of Peace" -- politically, it was abused by the likes of the Kings of France and the Habsburg dukes of Spain and Austria as a weapon to subjugate other Christians in the aggrandizement of their empires. The history of the Netherlands during the 17th century is just one big battle against the Catholic kings of Spain.

Cromwell knew fully well what happened to Protestant princes and peasants who lived in Austria, Hungary, France, etc., in the 16th century. Their lands were confiscated and their families murdered by the Inquisition.

Think about it: Cromwell was tolerant enough to extend freedom of worship to Jews, who for eons suffered pogroms under the "Christ Killer" and "Blood drinker" slurs. That alone tells me Cromwell was sincere in his desire for religious liberty for those religions that could tolerate the existence of others.

As for his Irish-murdering policy ... well, most Englishmen regardless of religion abused Ireland pretty shamelessly then. Don't forget: the policy of "planting" English settlers in the pale of Ireland began with the very Catholic Queen Mary.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2006, 11:28:19 PM »

Interesting fact I learned about Cromwell:

In 1634 Cromwell wanted to emigrate to Connecticut Colony to practice his Calvinism in peace, but the government refused his application. To say the least: big mistake

On the plus side, Cromwell's stay in England may have saved the lives of some 20,000 Indians in New England.
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