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Helsinkian
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« on: June 08, 2021, 12:49:48 AM »
« edited: June 08, 2021, 11:49:13 AM by Helsinkian »

Every once in a while the Finnish Air Force's continued use of swastika emblems makes news. There is currently a joint airforce exercise in Finland involving units from several countries. A few days ago, the Finnish Air Force held a small ceremony in honour of the Finnish Defence Force's Flag Day. Representatives of the visiting militaries were invited, but the officer representing the German Bundeswehr declined the invitation when he was told of this flag which belongs to the Lapland Air Command of the FAF (a clearer look at the flag in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapland_Air_Command):



Title from Lapin Kansa, the newspaper from which the screenshot is taken: "Swastika prevented Germans from participating in Flag Day ceremony in Rovaniemi -- 'German soldiers can not stand in front of such a flag'"

Comment from Teivo Teivainen (professor of world politics, University of Helsinki): "Swastika complicates military co-operation, though it upholds tradition. From a German point of view, the #SeparateSwastika might not be separate enough to work with. #FlagDay"

The German officer was quoted in another article:

"I was told in advance that the flag would be in the ceremony, so I decided not to attend. Even though the event has the best of intentions, as a German officer I cannot appear with such a symbol. [...] Appearing with a swastika would be sufficient grounds for expelling me from the German Armed Forces."
https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/saksalaiset-jattivat-lippujuhlan-seremonian-valiin-hakaristin-takia-saksalaisena-upseerina-en-voi-esiintya-sellaisen-symbolin-kanssa/8163368#gs.2snac2

The history of the swastika in the Finnish Air Force goes back to 1918 when the Swedish nobleman Eric von Rosen donated the FAF one of its first planes. He had painted a swastika on the plane because it was a personal symbol used by him, and the FAF adopted the swastika as its emblem. This usage had nothing to do with nazism, as the nazis adopted the swastika later, in 1920 (though Rosen did later become a nazi). Until 1945, FAF planes used a blue swastika on a white background as the air force roundel. That was changed after WW2, but units of the Air Force have still continued to use a swastika in their flags.

BBC wrote on the Finnish use of the swastika last year when the central Air Force Command changed its swastika emblem (but, as noted, individual FAF units continue to use it): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53249645
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Helsinkian
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2021, 11:41:44 AM »

Is there any discussion about it on a national level in Finland? It does seems like at strange thing to hang on to. Carlsberg used to use the swastika as a symbol but dropped it after WW2

The aforementioned Teivo Teivainen has been the swastika's loudest critic in public.

On a side note. Has there been any chances to the war museum in Helsinki? Last time I visited, the Continuation War exhibition was hillariously bad and a major white wash

Not sure, I haven't been there in a long time.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2021, 09:05:30 AM »

Unrelated: Does the Finnish Air Force accept foreigners? I have a pilot license...

Not currently, I don't think so. There were foreign volunteer pilots in the Winter War, but that was a during a time of crisis.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2022, 03:05:35 AM »
« Edited: June 07, 2022, 03:20:34 AM by Helsinkian »

The Air Force's swastika flags again spark debate after another appearance at a parade last week:

Quoting from Finnish foreign policy expert Charly Salonius-Pasternak:

Quote from: Charly Salonius-Pasternak
Future NATO membership requires a shift in strategic culture in Finland with regard to #SecurityPolitics, citizens and defence.

One framework of 'compatibility' is #stratcom. Let people figure out what this looks like in the 'Flag Day' parade.

And before someone starts with 'But we used it already in...' or 'It's part of a tradition...', I'll say: stop.

The swastika has been destroyed as a 'positive' symbol. The #SeparateSwastika does not belong in this century.



I'm sure that if Russia were to invade Finland, the online tankies would be spamming these photos everywhere. Then again, if this flag did not exist, they would just make up something else.
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