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Junior Chimp
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« on: January 30, 2017, 07:21:27 PM »

F*k off Turnbull. The boat policy is really a stupid policy, if I've seen one, then asylum seekers are locked up offshore in detention centres, in despicable conditions. I guess the dual citizenship thing is good  though.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 04:26:41 AM »

The whole international community should be shaming Australia, but instead most people have never heard of the issue.

No one wants child refugees drowning at sea. 1,200 people thereabouts drowned at sea in the last left wing phase of government and all of the children in detention are from that era. So you are talking about a policy change that puts 300 children at the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

No one is going to reverse the policy and let them in through boat arrival.

The issue has been well sought through.

If illegal boat arrivals know that they will be resettled in Malaysia or Indonesia, Nauru or Manus.

It's also an incredibly popular move once you secure your border.

Labor (left wing) never raise the issue anymore publicly because they know they will get hammered.

So shaming Australia and reversing that policy sends refugee children to their death (by drowning) and puts lives at risk.

Do you think the Indonesian boat captains care about small children from Iran and Iraq when they collect $20,000 each for the illegal boat ride?

Whether we want to make asylum seekers drown is irrelevant, and I assure you, that is not our intent. The border policy, of lock people in Manus Island and Nauru, with despicable living conditions, lack of medical care towards the people there, not free speech to report on what actually happens there, and the fact that human rights groups have condemned such prisons as inhumane, quasi-torture camps.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-29/shea-turn-back-from-your-policy,-australia/6895004
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 06:41:52 AM »

We have had no illegal boat arrivals under the Abbot/Turnbull setup.

No children drowning in the Indian Ocean watching their parents drown.

No children in offshore detention since the date of the policy introduction.

No illegal boat arrivals since the policy changed.


It works.

Even Labor are simply debating now which countries should help provide relief with offshore detention.

I agree the conditions are crap, but I am not a fan of children in detention or children drowning at sea.

It needed to change, it did, and it works. It was and still is the most effective immigration policy, and you don't even need a wall.

Once you remove the chance of re-settlement, they dont even try. They queue up with all the legitimate refugees and come in legally.

And no noise from Labor about the issue. So the chances or reversing this policy are long past.

Again, we push the boats, back to perimeters to where we don't know if people have drowned or have not.

There are still children in offshore detention in awful conditions, and let's not even pretend, that you need these despicable conditions for off-shore detention, to punish these people from fleeing persecution to STOP THE BOATS. There are reason journalists are banned to enter such sites, as are reasons, to why any social/medical worker has to sign form, not to report on the conditions on such detention centres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlZcNlOLBM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__mSPRbG-tg&t=1125s
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 06:58:20 PM »


Western Australia is similar to Texas.

We have the largest state. We deal with the illegal immigrant arrivals. We have all the oil. We have cowboys.

So yes, there would be that crossover with someone like JJC.

I would be lying if thought Trump was going about things in the correct manner sometimes, but i give him points for trying.

Anyone who owns a business understands the money driven nature of self-promotion

Give Trumpy 3-6 months and he will be right as rain.

And Labor will win the WA state election, after the liberal sent all the mining money out east, and din't try to get any profit for the state and it's people. Rather WA is now in a recession like sink hole.
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