The Chronicle of the Death of the Atlasian Right (VERY VERY VERY DEAD!)

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

a quirky centrist in Lumine

lol

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Lumine is right wing lol

Not if I change all the facts to fit my narrative!

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Y'all are idiots if you genuinely think that any sort of bill slump is solely due to who was speaker, or who was president, or because 'the party I disagree with is worse at getting bills through.' There are lots of variables at play (how many bills the citizens are writing, the individual beliefs of the representatives, whether or not bills are being rushed, etc.) You can't just look at who was president or speaker or the CEO of the McDonald's at the time, because it's not accurate, and doesn't say too much about the actual bills being passed.

ding ding ding

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

What would Atlasia be without its annoying personal feuds?

A much better place

Now Razze, think of all the poor, lonely sociopaths who would have nothing to fill their endless days without sh*tting on people on Discord!

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

By October of 2015, the left had only 1 of the then 10 Senate seats.

:waves:


The right will be back eventually, barring a cataclysmic event in the life of the forum —but it's hard to overstate the drubbing they just took. Even in 2015, the Federalist collapse was tempered by the existence of other forces to oppose the left —TPP held the balance of power in the Senate, Yankee's defeat was engineered by the anti-Federalist center and resulted in Hagrid (a conservative and former Federalist chairman) becoming Senator for the South, and crucially there still remained races that the left just could not win. Even Bore in his reelection romp could not carry all five regions, and that same election PiT trounced Hagrid to recapture the Southern seat. On the inverse, during the permanent Fed majority of 2017, Frémont remained as a bastion of leftism without a single elected Federalist officeholder for most of that year. For the right to be completely shut-out everywhere at every level is simply unprecedented in the history of the game.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

By October of 2015, the left had only 1 of the then 10 Senate seats.

:waves:

This is incorrect.


While Truman was indeed a Senator in October 2015, he was so as a member of TPP. Labor did have a Senator, New Canadaland. And Talleyrand got elected as a faux Federalist with Labor votes in a Special election and then proceeded with the expulsions of New Canadaland and Cassius, who were replaced by Barnes (registered indy) and Maxwell (who jumped between Make Atlasia Great Again Party and Labor several times).

So while Labor was without a Senator during sporadic points, the left was most certainly not without members. And then in early November when Maxwell was replaced by Celticempire, Lumine resigned and was replaced by leftwing Turkisblau.

Pretty sure it was Ebowed who replaced Lumine (appointed to the seat by Governor Turk).

But yes, there were still a handful of leftist Senators in 2015. Early 2016 was when the bottom really fell out of the tub and the Senatorial left became me, Ebowed, and Barnes —the latter two being MIA.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

		Mideast	Midwest	Northeast	Pacific	South
LAB		19	15	30	12	21
SFD		09	04	03	03	12
FED		05	02	06	02	04
OTH		01	02	07	00	03

* Excluding 2 votes for Adam in the UK


I may have misplaced a vote here or there, but it seems even under the old map Labor still would have swept the table. The Senate is more complicated, as the candidates would need to be different and we'd need to use August numbers to determine the At-Large Seats, but if we assume Class II was 2-2-1 (with Poirot as the fifth Senator) it's very possible we'd be looking at a Senate where Labor has a 6-3 or 7-3 majority.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

		Mideast	Midwest	Northeast	Pacific	South
LAB		19	15	30	12	21
SFD		09	04	03	03	12
FED		05	02	06	02	04
OTH		01	02	07	00	03

* Excluding 2 votes for Adam in the UK


I may have misplaced a vote here or there, but it seems even under the old map Labor still would have swept the table. The Senate is more complicated, as the candidates would need to be different and we'd need to use August numbers to determine the At-Large Seats, but if we assume Class II was 2-2-1 (with Poirot as the fifth Senator) it's very possible we'd be looking at a Senate where Labor has a 6-3 or 7-3 majority.

Poirot's chances of winning would have been very low with five seats since the quota would be in the mid to high 20s.

Indeed. So more likely than not, we're looking at 7-2 or 8-2 for the Senate, depending on who the candidates were in the Pacific and Northeast.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I love a good historical lecture from Yankee as much as the next man, but maybe this time the right could couch their rebuttal in a cartoonish self-parody complete with mustachioed straw men who are taught to see the error of their ways.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Is it dead now considering that Labor considers the DA and Greens as shadow right wingers?

IT'S ALIVE!