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#TheShadowyAbyss
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« on: January 20, 2016, 11:58:36 PM »
« edited: January 21, 2016, 12:00:31 AM by #TheShadowyAbyss »

For some reason Trump has appeal to EVERY section of the GOP.... Romney didn't. Romney had the liberal to moderate group, Gingrich had the old-guard conservatives, Paul the libertarians and Santorum had the evangelicals. This time Trump is pretty much leading or tied with all the groups

Hillary has the moderate to conservaDems and minorities, Sanders the white latte liberals and young people.

Hillary was competitive because she had the Latino vote around her, even though Obama had the liberal and AA vote. Sanders has NEITHER and probably will hover around 35-40% UNLESS he can make inroads into either the AA or Latino communities.
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#TheShadowyAbyss
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2016, 12:05:05 AM »

Trump losing the general election is more likely than him winning the primary
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#TheShadowyAbyss
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2016, 12:07:01 AM »

Trump is the Romney of the cycle, he has the stable support. Cruz is the Gingrich, just another flavor of the month.

Also, Hillary is inevitable unless someone can explain how Bernie overcomes his problems with minorities.

If Iowa and New Hampshire go for Sanders, the polls will dramatically change in every state, and a path will be revealed.

Blacks and Latinos are rather inelastic voters, I doubt Bernie winning IA & NH is going to change many of their minds. And without minority support, the path is very difficult for Sanders to win big states like NY, CA, OH, MI, IL, FL, ect. Unless he can win white women in those states by at least 15%, he's not going to win.

Most people don't understand that minority voters are on the conservative end of the Democratic party, especially the AA community. Bernie is simply too liberal for these groups. And at least from my experience speaking to some of my AA friends there is some dislike for Bernie because of his Jewish background amongst the AA community idk why though
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#TheShadowyAbyss
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2016, 12:09:59 AM »

Thank you, Wulfric, for actually understanding politics, unlike many others. If someone weak in the national polls wins an early state, they gain recognition and voters gain confidence in their ability to win. Trump is not only leading by an unprecedented amount nationally, but he also has the lowest percentage of supporters who say they are still open to switching their support. It all comes down to Iowa and New Hampshire. If Trump wins both, he secures the nomination. If he loses one of the two, we start to see Trump lose support substantially, all because his campaign hangs on the thread of being a winner. His supporters want to support a winner and be winners, and surely won't take a loss well.

He only needs to win Iowa, if he wins Iowa he has all the momentum in the world, he is probably already in the clear to win New Hampshire. If the moderate vote can coalesce around a Rubio or Bush then Trump needs to worry in NH
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