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Clyde1998
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« on: July 22, 2016, 08:22:42 AM »

I support this, however...

Under the current draft, Atlasians who move to England would be considered residents of The North, for Scotland the South, and Wales and Northern Ireland for Fremont, for jurisdictional and regional/federal election purposes.
I oppose this distribution - England and Scotland being the wrong way around, as Scotland is in the North of the UK and should be in the North for jurisdictional/electional purposes and England is in the South of the UK and should be in the South for both.

I've been creating a potential treaty for this, so when it's finished I'll post it here.
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Clyde1998
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2016, 01:02:23 PM »

As mentioned before, I believe the regions for England and Scotland should be swapped due to the geographical locations of both territories within the United Kingdom. I'm not sure why they've been put the way round that they have been. Additionally, Gibraltar would need to be included, as it was a member of the European Union under the UK's membership. For European elections, Gibraltar was considered part of the South West of England - so I would recommend that Gibraltarians are added to the same region as England.

On top of this, I would add a clause stating that this agreement should be subject to the agreement of citizens of both countries via a referendum, under the terms of each countries' constitution.

Also, Section 5, Clauses 2 and 3 are irrelevant to both countries, as we don't share a land or maritime border. Additionally, the treaty cannot go into force while the United Kingdom is a member of the European Union.

I actually can't disagree with any of the points you mentioned here, and I'll make the appropriate changes.  I mainly connected residency from the North to England out of personal preference, but your reasoning is sound.  So I will modify the bill to connect England and Gibraltar to the South and Scotland to the North.

Clauses 2 and 3 were a mistake on my part; it was rather late when I drafted the legislation (most of the language is taken from Simfan's old bill).

I did not know that the UK was unable to enter such trade agreements while they are members of the EU.  That change will be made as well.

I appreciate your assistance with this.
That's okay. Smiley

With trade, while the UK (or any other country) is a member of the EU, international trade deals must be negotiated between the European Union and the country that the trade deal would be with. This means that the UK (within the EU) couldn't have an exclusive trade deal with Atlasia; there would have to be an EU-Atlasia trade deal for this to be in place.
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Clyde1998
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2016, 04:03:24 PM »

Why would Britian join another Common Market, if they just left one. This idea is a little foolish.
A large percentage of people in the UK didn't want the political aspect that has been emerging in the EU, but wanted to keep the Common Market with the EU. Additionally, Leave campaigners were mostly in favour of strong trade deals with English-speaking countries like Atlasia and the Commonwealth.

This would help ease the strain on the western economies that have had a post Brexit-vote shock, by offering the UK a common market deal with a country roughly the same size as the EU.
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