Senator Cotton Suggests Protesters Should Be Thrown Off Bridges

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One of the most eye-opening moments of 2020 for me was when one of my acquaintances who I had always thought of as a go-to example of "I know someone who is as conservative as they come, but at least he supports democracy, opposes violence, and sees us all as fellow Americans" came out in support of people driving over BLM protesters if they got in their way. Of course, he then decided the election was stolen in November and then basically left all social media after January 6th after sharing a post that Big Tech was engaging in Orwellin censorship by taking away Trump's Twitter account.

Which is all to say, this is a radicalization pipeline. This is exactly how ISIS (and probably Hamas too, to some extent) wants its supporters to look at the world. In their case, it's just replacing peaceful protesters with members of other religions - two groups so historically connected that they are protected in the same breath in the Constitution.

George HW Bush sent in the military to deal with the LA Rioters while Trump didn’t have the courage to do what HW Bush did .

The BLM riots were a complete disgrace and their demands helped harm this nation

[OSR stands with Israel]

One of the most eye-opening moments of 2020 for me was when one of my acquaintances who I had always thought of as a go-to example of "I know someone who is as conservative as they come, but at least he supports democracy, opposes violence, and sees us all as fellow Americans" came out in support of people driving over BLM protesters if they got in their way. Of course, he then decided the election was stolen in November and then basically left all social media after January 6th after sharing a post that Big Tech was engaging in Orwellin censorship by taking away Trump's Twitter account.

Which is all to say, this is a radicalization pipeline. This is exactly how ISIS (and probably Hamas too, to some extent) wants its supporters to look at the world. In their case, it's just replacing peaceful protesters with members of other religions - two groups so historically connected that they are protected in the same breath in the Constitution.

George HW Bush sent in the military to deal with the LA Rioters while Trump didn’t have the courage to do what HW Bush did .

The BLM riots were a complete disgrace and their demands helped harm this nation

You're absolutely right that Donald Trump didn't do his job. There should have been boots on the ground. But blaming the man who was furthest right only gets us so far. I'm sure he's learned his lesson at this point, but even if he hasn't I'd rather have a President who was and is at least directionally against the rioters, the criminals, the thugs then one who is and was on their side.

And frankly, I mean it when I say I think Trump has learned his lesson. If he wins, the next four years will be wholesome for this country beyond belief. Even with executive powers alone, what the executive has wrought can be unmade. We can fire the bureaucrats. We can cripple Title 9. We can gut the political prosecutors. The DEI state, the welfare state, all of it -- it can and will be undone. We will triumph.

I don’t think Trump learnt his lesson though and I believe he learnt all the wrong lessons and at this point seems hell bent of just being a chaos agent . Like he has been obsessed with the idea that the 2020 election was stolen ever since he lost and has been making his campaign about revenge for that .  Also his foreign policy stances this time are just truly truly awful as well as he’s even been backing down from his anti China stances from his first term .

I will just say I’m happy to be living in a safe state this election cycle cause I have never ever been embarrassed by an election choice as I am by this one .

[OSR stands with Israel]

One of the most eye-opening moments of 2020 for me was when one of my acquaintances who I had always thought of as a go-to example of "I know someone who is as conservative as they come, but at least he supports democracy, opposes violence, and sees us all as fellow Americans" came out in support of people driving over BLM protesters if they got in their way. Of course, he then decided the election was stolen in November and then basically left all social media after January 6th after sharing a post that Big Tech was engaging in Orwellin censorship by taking away Trump's Twitter account.

Which is all to say, this is a radicalization pipeline. This is exactly how ISIS (and probably Hamas too, to some extent) wants its supporters to look at the world. In their case, it's just replacing peaceful protesters with members of other religions - two groups so historically connected that they are protected in the same breath in the Constitution.

George HW Bush sent in the military to deal with the LA Rioters while Trump didn’t have the courage to do what HW Bush did .

The BLM riots were a complete disgrace and their demands helped harm this nation

You're absolutely right that Donald Trump didn't do his job. There should have been boots on the ground. But blaming the man who was furthest right only gets us so far. I'm sure he's learned his lesson at this point, but even if he hasn't I'd rather have a President who was and is at least directionally against the rioters, the criminals, the thugs then one who is and was on their side.

And frankly, I mean it when I say I think Trump has learned his lesson. If he wins, the next four years will be wholesome for this country beyond belief. Even with executive powers alone, what the executive has wrought can be unmade. We can fire the bureaucrats. We can cripple Title 9. We can gut the political prosecutors. The DEI state, the welfare state, all of it -- it can and will be undone. We will triumph.

I don’t think Trump learnt his lesson though and I believe he learnt all the wrong lessons and at this point seems hell bent of just being a chaos agent . Like he has been obsessed with the idea that the 2020 election was stolen ever since he lost and has been making his campaign about revenge for that .  Also his foreign policy stances this time are just truly truly awful as well as he’s even been backing down from his anti China stances from his first term .

I will just say I’m happy to be living in a safe state this election cycle cause I have never ever been embarrassed by an election choice as I am by this one

Sure he has. Haven't you heard of Project 2025? Don't you see what's happened to the Espers of the world, and the Stephen Millers of the world? And frankly, China is much less of a problem than our domestic problems.  Should we be preparing to fight them for Taiwan? Sure, but we could lose Taiwan and it would still be less important than who wins the battle for America here. As Lincoln said, America can only be defeated from within. Focus on the big picture.

The question though with any plan is the details. While yes we need a dramatic reshaping of the civil service , the question is who will Trump put in those positions. Will they be people who are actually interested in bringing a conservative constitutional government or will they be people who are just put in their case they are loyal to Trump but in reality are very incompetent at their jobs .

The latter does not bring on conservative goals and instead just make it easier for the left to push culture even more to the left as our efforts will quickly become unpopular and also easier to tie up in the courts . At the end of the day , Trump has never shown to be a disciplined person and bringing upon the changes you need requires a lot of discipline and while I wish Trump was disciplined, he absolutely is not .

Listen , I hope to be wrong but his actions since November 2020 have not really given me faith in his abilities

[OSR stands with Israel]

One of the most eye-opening moments of 2020 for me was when one of my acquaintances who I had always thought of as a go-to example of "I know someone who is as conservative as they come, but at least he supports democracy, opposes violence, and sees us all as fellow Americans" came out in support of people driving over BLM protesters if they got in their way. Of course, he then decided the election was stolen in November and then basically left all social media after January 6th after sharing a post that Big Tech was engaging in Orwellin censorship by taking away Trump's Twitter account.

Which is all to say, this is a radicalization pipeline. This is exactly how ISIS (and probably Hamas too, to some extent) wants its supporters to look at the world. In their case, it's just replacing peaceful protesters with members of other religions - two groups so historically connected that they are protected in the same breath in the Constitution.

George HW Bush sent in the military to deal with the LA Rioters while Trump didn’t have the courage to do what HW Bush did .

The BLM riots were a complete disgrace and their demands helped harm this nation

You're absolutely right that Donald Trump didn't do his job. There should have been boots on the ground. But blaming the man who was furthest right only gets us so far. I'm sure he's learned his lesson at this point, but even if he hasn't I'd rather have a President who was and is at least directionally against the rioters, the criminals, the thugs then one who is and was on their side.

And frankly, I mean it when I say I think Trump has learned his lesson. If he wins, the next four years will be wholesome for this country beyond belief. Even with executive powers alone, what the executive has wrought can be unmade. We can fire the bureaucrats. We can cripple Title 9. We can gut the political prosecutors. The DEI state, the welfare state, all of it -- it can and will be undone. We will triumph.

I don’t think Trump learnt his lesson though and I believe he learnt all the wrong lessons and at this point seems hell bent of just being a chaos agent . Like he has been obsessed with the idea that the 2020 election was stolen ever since he lost and has been making his campaign about revenge for that .  Also his foreign policy stances this time are just truly truly awful as well as he’s even been backing down from his anti China stances from his first term .

I will just say I’m happy to be living in a safe state this election cycle cause I have never ever been embarrassed by an election choice as I am by this one

Sure he has. Haven't you heard of Project 2025? Don't you see what's happened to the Espers of the world, and the Stephen Millers of the world? And frankly, China is much less of a problem than our domestic problems.  Should we be preparing to fight them for Taiwan? Sure, but we could lose Taiwan and it would still be less important than who wins the battle for America here. As Lincoln said, America can only be defeated from within. Focus on the big picture.

The question though with any plan is the details. While yes we need a dramatic reshaping of the civil service , the question is who will Trump put in those positions. Will they be people who are actually interested in bringing a conservative constitutional government or will they be people who are just put in their case they are loyal to Trump but in reality are very incompetent at their jobs .

The latter does not bring on conservative goals and instead just make it easier for the left to push culture even more to the left as our efforts will quickly become unpopular and also easier to tie up in the courts . At the end of the day , Trump has never shown to be a disciplined person and bringing upon the changes you need requires a lot of discipline and while I wish Trump was disciplined, he absolutely is not .

Listen , I hope to be wrong but his actions since November 2020 have not really given me faith in his abilities

You're exactly the same as Trump when it comes to the civil service; you don't want people promoted on merit, but loyalty to your ideology. The only difference is your ideology has some surface-level disagreements with his but aim for the same goals.

The "Responsible Republican" issue with Trump isn't his views; it's that he said the quiet parts out loud.

its a joke to claim the people who don’t make Up the civil service aren’t political. The ones who do currently pushed the CRT nonsense in our institutions, have tried to undermine our foreign policy every step of the way , and abused their powers when it comes to regulations in general.

The fact is there is no such thing as a non political civil service and we should stop pretending. Also I stopped caring about deferring to “experts” when experts said :

- It’s ok to protest in large numbers but not ok to go to the beach or go in picnics

- shutting down schools for 18 months won’t have significant consequences

- teaching algebra is racist

- decriminalizing hard drugs will not increase crime

- we should look at every institution through a super narrow intersectional view


The so called exports and academics have been wrong so flagrantly over the past few years that yes they absolutely should lose the trust they once had . They are blatantly political and it is high time we bring them down a peg .

Yes this is the reason I supported DeSantis and the actions of institutions and academia since October 7th have shows that he underplayed how big the rot is .

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Again, you and Trump would both be fine with political civil service workers if they were pushing your ideology.

Yes I would be fine with a political civil service if they were pushing my ideology . They serve at the whim of the president and are not a separate branch of government.

That’s better than what we have Now which is a progressive one regardless of whose president

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Again, you and Trump would both be fine with political civil service workers if they were pushing your ideology.

Yes I would be fine with a political civil service if they were pushing my ideology . They serve at the whim of the president and are not a separate branch of government.

That’s better than what we have Now which is a progressive one regardless of whose president

Yeah, because the Spoils System was famously staffed by incorruptible men.

What we have now is an ideological civil service whose goal is to push the progressive agenda regardless of whose president and regardless of what the president wants to do .

So yes there is nothing wrong with conservatives wanting to have a conservative civil service when a Republican is president. If you think this is a problem then you can always agree to pass the reins act and kneecap their powers but until then it’s only fair that the civil service under a Republican president pushes a conservative agenda .

[OSR stands with Israel]

Again, you and Trump would both be fine with political civil service workers if they were pushing your ideology.

Yes I would be fine with a political civil service if they were pushing my ideology . They serve at the whim of the president and are not a separate branch of government.

That’s better than what we have Now which is a progressive one regardless of whose president

Yeah, because the Spoils System was famously staffed by incorruptible men.

What we have now is an ideological civil service whose goal is to push the progressive agenda regardless of whose president and regardless of what the president wants to do .

So yes there is nothing wrong with conservatives wanting to have a conservative civil service when a Republican is president. If you think this is a problem then you can always agree to pass the reins act and kneecap their powers but until then it’s only fair that the civil service under a Republican president pushes a conservative agenda .

What if I happen to think that the Republican Party in its current form is a dangerous threat to life and democracy in the US?

Then you should support efforts to kneecap the powers of the civil service

[OSR stands with Israel]

Again, you and Trump would both be fine with political civil service workers if they were pushing your ideology.

Yes I would be fine with a political civil service if they were pushing my ideology . They serve at the whim of the president and are not a separate branch of government.

That’s better than what we have Now which is a progressive one regardless of whose president

Yeah, because the Spoils System was famously staffed by incorruptible men.

What we have now is an ideological civil service whose goal is to push the progressive agenda regardless of whose president and regardless of what the president wants to do .

So yes there is nothing wrong with conservatives wanting to have a conservative civil service when a Republican is president. If you think this is a problem then you can always agree to pass the reins act and kneecap their powers but until then it’s only fair that the civil service under a Republican president pushes a conservative agenda .

What if I happen to think that the Republican Party in its current form is a dangerous threat to life and democracy in the US?

Then you should support efforts to kneecap the powers of the civil service

Kid, no, just no. The civil service is how a country is run, vs your goal of gutting it to make it fail and going “see, it’s terrible, we need to eliminate it”. It doesn’t work on people with critical thinking skills.

Ok then we get to run it to implement the conservative agenda as well .

[OSR stands with Israel]

While I don't endorse killing or harming the protestors, I can't think of a more counterproductive way to get your point across than making a bunch of people (who have no control over Gaza policy) late to work or whatever appointments they have.

Yeah the fact that these losers are doing all this nonsense and Israel is still losing support from Americans in droves (I think no more than 10% will approve by the end of the year) is a searing indictment of Netanyahu and his ethnic cleansing, sorry, war.

Israel losing some support which according to polls hasn’t been much , is thanks to progressive youtube and paleocons like Tucker Carlson .

Like ok I can understand that you can blame Netanyahu for liberals and progressives being less pro Israel but how can you blame him for the right being less pro Israel given that’s more due to paleocons like Tucker Carlson who have always been anti Israel (just see pat buchanan in the 1990s for example )

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Ok then we get to run it to implement the conservative agenda as well .

No.

This shows how undemocratic progressives like you are .

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Our President ought to stand up for ordinary people.  And he ought to have the courage to not be strongarmed by any ethnic group utilizing political violence on American Soil to attempt to coerce foreign policy changes that are not in America's interest.

Why don’t you just say a damn slur at this point. You’ll get your point across a lot faster and clearer.

It's revealing that you don't think black people/minorities can be ordinary people too. You view them as a tool to subvert society, not as Americans equal to any others.

 I wasn’t the one who singled out “ethnic people” as a distinct and different group from “ordinary people”.

Whitmer took a week to condemn “death to America” chants because she thought doing so would hurt the democrats among Muslim voters .

The fact is democrats are taking ethnic groups into account when deciding what their actions should be in response to certain protests, so they are the ones falsely labeling entire ethnic groups with the views of those protestors and that’s a fact . That’s exactly what Governor Whitmer did and it’s disgraceful which is exactly why they have been losing support of Muslims before the past few months and that is average voters are tired of the way the democrats have treated them .

It’s not fuzzy whose doing that but the Democratic Party

[OSR stands with Israel]

Again, you and Trump would both be fine with political civil service workers if they were pushing your ideology.

Yes I would be fine with a political civil service if they were pushing my ideology . They serve at the whim of the president and are not a separate branch of government.

That’s better than what we have Now which is a progressive one regardless of whose president

Yeah, because the Spoils System was famously staffed by incorruptible men.

What we have now is an ideological civil service whose goal is to push the progressive agenda regardless of whose president and regardless of what the president wants to do .

So yes there is nothing wrong with conservatives wanting to have a conservative civil service when a Republican is president. If you think this is a problem then you can always agree to pass the reins act and kneecap their powers but until then it’s only fair that the civil service under a Republican president pushes a conservative agenda .

What if I happen to think that the Republican Party in its current form is a dangerous threat to life and democracy in the US?

Then you should support efforts to kneecap the powers of the civil service

Kid, no, just no. The civil service is how a country is run, vs your goal of gutting it to make it fail and going “see, it’s terrible, we need to eliminate it”. It doesn’t work on people with critical thinking skills.

Ok then we get to run it to implement the conservative agenda as well .

That agenda right now includes the destruction of American democracy.

Not that I agree with OSR, Haley/Ryan, or Fuzzy Bear, but in their world views, American Democracy to them, doesn't exist at all.

To them, American Democracy is being destroyed by left wing progressives who want to impose " cultural marxism " and destroy liberty as we know it.


So in their minds, they want to restore American Democracy, and " Judeo Christian Values ".

I mean you literally have posters in this thread arguing they think it’s wrong for conservatives to pick a civil service that would implement conservative policies while a Republican is president. That is literally the definition of democracy and really it’s ridiculous to claim that liberals should get their way regardless of who’s president.

That sentiment is undemocratic and the fact is we were never supposed to have a civil service that acts as its own branch of government. So what we want to do is restore the American constitution by firmly establishing the civil service is not its own branch of government. We also said that if democrats don’t want republican presidents to have this power then maybe they should weaken the powers of these agencies but they don’t want to do that either .

Liberal think the civil service should be both liberal and it’s own branch of government