NBC news article: Arab voters rage at Biden in key swing state (Michigan)

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And Trump will do what exactly for Palestine?

Well they could just not vote or vote third party but this type of reasoning is flawed for another reason.

The argument "X Voter is mad at the party they usually vote for due to Issue Y but the other party is worse(from their perspective) on Issue Y so they will vote for our party" is that the reason X voter voted for your party was because of that one issue. If they get pissed at your party for that they may vote on other reasons

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https://twitter.com/muslimtom_/status/1715846655902449812?s=46&t=J_equ31A3oC...

This feels more 1968 than 2012…

Hopefully the GOP doesnt reach out to the type of people who would attend such a rally.

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40% of Arab Americans now support Trump:

“Support among Arab American voters for Biden has plummeted from 59% in 2020 to 17% today,” the [Arab American Institute] poll analysis said.

Notably, the data found that for the first time in AAI’s 26 years of polling that a majority of the Arab Americans did not claim to prefer the Democratic party.

Moreover, 40% of those polled said they will vote for Donald Trump in 2024 – a five percentage-point increase from 2020, marking an all-time high for Arab American identification with the Republican party.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/31/biden-polling-israel-hamas-war-arab-americans

Yeah, we'll see if that lasts when he starts campaigning and reminds them how much he and his party could give less of a crap about their collective interests.

Trump is not a blank slate, and though he is capable of contorting himself into whatever political situation suits him, Americans are going to see ince again hiw inconsistent and unstable he still is. That doesn't necessarily mean some still won't go third party, of course. I think that's the more realistic concern over them swinging to the guy who tried to ban Muslims from entering the country.

I mean Trump did better than 2004 Bush did with Muslim voters and that wasn’t only in 2020 but 2016 too . Maybe they do care more about foreign policy issues than immigration issues

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40% of Arab Americans now support Trump:

“Support among Arab American voters for Biden has plummeted from 59% in 2020 to 17% today,” the [Arab American Institute] poll analysis said.

Notably, the data found that for the first time in AAI’s 26 years of polling that a majority of the Arab Americans did not claim to prefer the Democratic party.

Moreover, 40% of those polled said they will vote for Donald Trump in 2024 – a five percentage-point increase from 2020, marking an all-time high for Arab American identification with the Republican party.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/31/biden-polling-israel-hamas-war-arab-americans

Yeah, we'll see if that lasts when he starts campaigning and reminds them how much he and his party could give less of a crap about their collective interests.

Trump is not a blank slate, and though he is capable of contorting himself into whatever political situation suits him, Americans are going to see ince again hiw inconsistent and unstable he still is. That doesn't necessarily mean some still won't go third party, of course. I think that's the more realistic concern over them swinging to the guy who tried to ban Muslims from entering the country.

I mean Trump did better than 2004 Bush did with Muslim voters and that wasn’t only in 2020 but 2016 too . Maybe they do care more about foreign policy issues than immigration issues

I guess it depends on what issues motivated them, but if it is going to be foreign policy, how in any way can Trump be better? And why should he be trusted in that way? I expect the worst of American voters quite often, but this really stretches it if you ask me.

Voters in general vote of image more than any particular policy and Trump gave of the image that he was a “non interventionist”. Now in actuality he wasn’t a non interventionist at all and has neocons on his FP team for years but that’s the image he gave off .

This is more of an American thing cause we have a presidential system so personality and image tends to matter more in those then in parliamentary systems which are more governments get voted out

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40% of Arab Americans now support Trump:

“Support among Arab American voters for Biden has plummeted from 59% in 2020 to 17% today,” the [Arab American Institute] poll analysis said.

Notably, the data found that for the first time in AAI’s 26 years of polling that a majority of the Arab Americans did not claim to prefer the Democratic party.

Moreover, 40% of those polled said they will vote for Donald Trump in 2024 – a five percentage-point increase from 2020, marking an all-time high for Arab American identification with the Republican party.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/31/biden-polling-israel-hamas-war-arab-americans

Yeah, we'll see if that lasts when he starts campaigning and reminds them how much he and his party could give less of a crap about their collective interests.

Trump is not a blank slate, and though he is capable of contorting himself into whatever political situation suits him, Americans are going to see ince again hiw inconsistent and unstable he still is. That doesn't necessarily mean some still won't go third party, of course. I think that's the more realistic concern over them swinging to the guy who tried to ban Muslims from entering the country.

I mean Trump did better than 2004 Bush did with Muslim voters and that wasn’t only in 2020 but 2016 too . Maybe they do care more about foreign policy issues than immigration issues

I guess it depends on what issues motivated them, but if it is going to be foreign policy, how in any way can Trump be better? And why should he be trusted in that way? I expect the worst of American voters quite often, but this really stretches it if you ask me.

Voters in general vote of image more than any particular policy and Trump gave of the image that he was a “non interventionist”. Now in actuality he wasn’t a non interventionist at all and has neocons on his FP team for years but that’s the image he gave off .

This is more of an American thing cause we have a presidential system so personality and image tends to matter more in those then in parliamentary systems which are more governments get voted out

That's a good point, but Trump was already President for four long, miserable years. We know what he is capable of more than in 2016, goldfish memories and all.

I mean he already did better with Muslim voters in 2020 than 2016 as well . This gets to another point and that is trends that go against a party in the year they take the White House get more profound in the years they actually are in the White House .

Bush - Northern suburbanite voters actually trended against the GOP in 2000 and then got more profound in 2004 before the GOP just collapsed with them in 2006/2008

Obama - Appalachia and Upper South Rurals trended hard against him in 2008 and in the years he was in the WH the democrats just collapsed with those voters

Trump - Sunbelt suburbanite voters trended hard against Trump in 2016 and it only got more profound in 2018/20.

Biden - Hispanic/Asian voters trended hard against the democrats in 2020 and continued to trend against the Dems in 2022( Asians did pretty hard , Hispanics did compared to house republicans in 2020 but stayed at 2020 presidential numbers).


Muslim voters also trended against the democrats in 2020 and then 2022 so it just may be trends continuing than anything else