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« on: February 02, 2023, 02:19:58 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2023, 12:15:03 AM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.



What good did Romney running so much to the right end up doing. He literally ended up disowning his own healthcare plan, which could have helped him in a general election .

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2023, 04:08:41 AM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.



Romney basically had to use his 2008 campaign to completely rebrand himself as a hardcore immigration hawk in order to set himself up to actually win the nomination in 2012 (and even then he barely managed it and was too bloodied from the primary to win in November).

Immigration is an issue Romney  has stayed consistent on , as he is still pretty hawkish on that issue
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2023, 04:50:33 PM »

Btw this is why I don’t think Hogan/Baker or on the dem side JBE would do good in presidential races and that is to realistically be the nominee , they would have to flip flop so hard that it would greatly undermine their chances to win .

Yeah that's the problem with those hypotheticals, these people would never, ever win their primaries so it's just pointless to think about how the general election would play out.

Romney was probably even more moderate than Hogan (although not as moderate as Baker) when he was the governor of MA, yet he was able to flip-flop to the far-right and win the 2012 GOP Primaries comfortably.



What good did Romney running so much to the right end up doing. He literally ended up disowning his own healthcare plan, which could have helped him in a general election .



He did better than McCain and flipped NC back, denying Obama the re-election halo Bush, Clinton, and Reagan got.

Without Lehman brothers happening 6 weeks before the election, Obama does not win IN NC and likely FL either .

OH and VA are very close in this scenario as well
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