When Students Change Gender Identity, and Parents Don’t Know

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I will say its definitely bad but not as outrageous as when this happens in Elementary or Middle School.

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This is one issue where I am 100% on the “conservative” side, and indeed the more I read about it the more entrenched I become in that position.

We know, and it's sad to see.  You're even more reactionary on this than several (possibly even most?) blue avatars around here.

I don't know what interactions you've had IRL with trans people, if any, but I hope at some point you'll get to do so and spend most of the conversation just being quiet and listening.

Quiet? Listening? That's the guy who wants to pump kids full of medication so they are quiet and he can get through his day as a teacher more lazily.

That’s Pres Mike not Alben . Stop accusing posters for having views that other posters have and if your not sure who has that view , then don’t make that accusation

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Where are the Atlas militant trans activists to explain why this is acceptable?

What’s the problem with it? As others have analogized, I don’t think there’s a difference between telling a kid’s parents that they’re trans and telling them the kid is gay. I think either one of those options could expose the kid to significant risk of abuse. A friend of mine was kicked out of the house by his parents for being gay when he was in high school. I’m sure there are many more people my age, and current school-aged children, who have similar experiences around being trans. People for whom it is not safe for their parents to know their sexual or gender identity.

There is one major difference and that being gay does not lead to a major medical procedure so making this comparison is beyond dumb. Parents should know if their kids are identifying as a different gender given the fact that it leads to major medical procedures.

I would be willing to make this compromise though:

Schools just have to get permission from parents if they want to use a different pronoun or before helping out with any sort of gender care

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Outing someone as gay or trans to their parents is one of the most vile things that you can do, and it's reprehensible that so many on Atlas want to force schools and teachers to do this.

You cannot compare the two as one doesn't lead to medical treatment.

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Where are the Atlas militant trans activists to explain why this is acceptable?

Where are the Atlas militant child abuse opponents to explain why child abuse is bad?

Also, shame on NYT for publishing this hateful nonsense.

Your and Ferguson’s definition of child abuse is beyond absurd

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Where are the Atlas militant trans activists to explain why this is acceptable?

Where are the Atlas militant child abuse opponents to explain why child abuse is bad?

Also, shame on NYT for publishing this hateful nonsense.

Your and Ferguson’s definition of child abuse is beyond absurd

Question for you, OSR. If you're 15-year-old cousin (I don't know if you have one, just entertain the hypothetical) came out to you as transgender, and asked you not to tell their mom and dad (your aunt and uncle), would you out them or would you respect their wishes?

In most cases no , but this is not a good comparison. I don’t have government authority or stature so that’s a whole different story .

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Where are the Atlas militant trans activists to explain why this is acceptable?

Where are the Atlas militant child abuse opponents to explain why child abuse is bad?

Also, shame on NYT for publishing this hateful nonsense.

Your and Ferguson’s definition of child abuse is beyond absurd

Question for you, OSR. If you're 15-year-old cousin (I don't know if you have one, just entertain the hypothetical) came out to you as transgender, and asked you not to tell their mom and dad (your aunt and uncle), would you out them or would you respect their wishes?

In most cases no , but this is not a good comparison. I don’t have government authority or stature so that’s a whole different story .

I'm trying to get you to understand why we want to protect students by keeping their identities a secret.

So I'll ask you to elaborate. Why wouldn't you out your cousin?

I mean when I have friends who have misbehaved in certain ways ,and I didnt  tell their parents lol but schools in certain instances have to. 

You cannot compare an individual to individual relationship to a school to a student .