UO students chant “f**k the mormons” at BYU game, BYU complains

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I've been going to Pac-12 games since about 1994, and I think everyone from everywhere but Eugene can agree that Oregon football fans are genuinely the worst.

USC Fans are the worst in terms of Pac-12 thanks to the bandwagon. Nothing beats how annoying their fans were in the Pete Carroll Days though Bama fans are equally annoying

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https://nypost.com/2022/09/18/utah-gov-spencer-cox-slams-oregon-fans-for-chant-against-mormons-at-byu-game/amp/

Why is the Utah Governor acting like this represents the whole fan base and why is this a national story that even nbc news is reporting this . Just ban these fans from NCAA games for life as a punishment and that should do

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No, I absolutely would not be fired. I've had plenty of bosses who say things like this too, in a wide range of different types of jobs. Out of the ten or so jobs I've worked at, I can think of one where maybe people wouldn't be happy about it. All your jobs have been in Democratic politics, yes? That's going to create a social environment that is very different than at a lot of other jobs.

You are completely out of your mind if you think that you wouldn't at the very least face some form of disciplinary action for openly and proudly disparaging a religious group at your place of work. HR would not look kindly on it at all.

I worked in a government building and, briefly, a deli when I was in college. So I've worked in a variety of environments.

Alright, I challenge you to do this: tomorrow when you go to work, walk up to your boss and say "I hate Jews, gays, and Blacks." Report back to us with the results.

SNIP

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2019/12/22/fans-who-flipped-off-cussed-at-isaiah-thomas-banned-from-arena-for-one-year/amp/

Fans have gotten suspended for flipping a player off so yes there is rules on behavior when you attempt a sports match and if you break those rules prepare to be punished for it . Those rules are also clearly stated before the start of each game and I can tell you I have gone to 25 NBA games since like 2004 and yah those rules have been stated every time .

If your workplace is fine with that type of behavior than ok then it doesn't violate the rules made by your workplace but this type of behavior does violate the behavioral rules made by the arena .

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No, I absolutely would not be fired. I've had plenty of bosses who say things like this too, in a wide range of different types of jobs. Out of the ten or so jobs I've worked at, I can think of one where maybe people wouldn't be happy about it. All your jobs have been in Democratic politics, yes? That's going to create a social environment that is very different than at a lot of other jobs.

You are completely out of your mind if you think that you wouldn't at the very least face some form of disciplinary action for openly and proudly disparaging a religious group at your place of work. HR would not look kindly on it at all.

I worked in a government building and, briefly, a deli when I was in college. So I've worked in a variety of environments.

Alright, I challenge you to do this: tomorrow when you go to work, walk up to your boss and say "I hate Jews, gays, and Blacks." Report back to us with the results.

SNIP

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2019/12/22/fans-who-flipped-off-cussed-at-isaiah-thomas-banned-from-arena-for-one-year/amp/

Fans have gotten suspended for flipping a player off so yes there is rules on behavior when you attempt a sports match and if you break those rules prepare to be punished for it . Those rules are also clearly stated before the start of each game and I can tell you I have gone to 25 NBA games since like 2004 and yah those rules have been stated every time

Well the NBA, like any organization, has the right to set and enforce its own rules. I am not aware of any such rules for college football.

Should the fans who chanted what they did at Steve Kerr have gotten punished or do you think fans should be even be allowed to say stuff like that .


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1988/03/06/kerr-overcomes-tragedy-injury-with-jokes-and-jumpers/4aa842c4-fd72-4c92-ba0d-8b8f7f5bfd61/

TUCSON -- It was a sad scene. Steve Kerr, who has endured so much, without a trace of bitterness or self pity, could not escape the taunts of a small group of Arizona State fans that stood chanting: "PLO, PLO. Where's your dad?"

It was four years ago that Kerr's father, Malcolm Kerr, was assassinated by terrorists as he arrived at his office at the American University in Beirut, where he was the school's president. Since then, his son has become a symbol of class and courage, not to mention an excellent basketball player. Last Saturday's performance by those fans was difficult for Kerr to bear. "People like that are the scum of the earth," he said. "To say the least, it fired me up."

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2. We had a Mormon co-worker who came on for part of the summer. This guy treated him perfectly fine. People made fun of the Mormon guy for his Mormonism, and he made fun of us in return for all sorts of things. This was not in the slightest any different from how the rest of us treated each other. Believe it or not, giving each other sh#t about even very personal things is absolutely normal and constant in plenty of workplaces. And on this job, if someone had started whining about a hostile workplace environment, everyone else would have given them the cold shoulder and they would not have lasted long.

Sometimes people will allow people to make fun of them in this way out of fear of backlash. And since you said they "wouldn't last long" this is definitely plausible. I'm not saying this is necessarily how this particular guy felt, but you can't deny that it's probable.

And it would also be very illegal to fire him if he complained about being mistreated due to his religion. Like, that's textbook discrimination.

To be clear, this was a construction job. It should not surprise anyone at all that such a job will have a social environment *very different* than, say, a job in Democratic Party politics.

"Construction workers are a bunch of racists. Btw Democrats are the real classists."

3. You are wrong. Criticism of creedal religions is less taboo than criticism of ethnoreligions, which is itself less taboo than criticism of immutable traits like race.

Among society at-large? Perhaps. According to human resources? It's all identical.

True, but everybody hates HR.

Yeah. Telling me that HR drones think a certain way is not exactly gonna convince me that normal people think that way, or that that's the right way to think about something. Much more likely the opposite.

Plus, it's not like HR is constantly looking over your shoulder waiting for you to say wrongthink so they can discipline or fire you. HR will get involved if they receive a complaint. The likelihood of this depends greatly on the work culture. Especially when the HR people are 1,000 miles from you at the company headquarters several states away, as was the case in the particular job I'm talking about!

Can you answer my question please as well : Should the fans who said what they said about Steve Kerr have been punished

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Update damn

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2023/03/college-coaches-ads-could-be-suspended-for-bad-fan-behavior-under-proposed-oregon-house-bill.html

Under the proposed bill, coaches such as Dan Lanning, Jonathan Smith, Dana Altman and Scott Rueck and athletic directors such as Rob Mullens and Scott Barnes could face one-week suspensions if fans at Oregon or Oregon State games “engage in the use of derogatory or inappropriate names, insults, verbal assaults, profanity or ridicule in violation of equity focused policies.”

A state law regulating fan behavior in which college coaches and athletic directors would face suspensions would be unprecedented. As written, the bill does not address who is the arbiter of the fans’ behavior or if violators have to have an allegiance to a public university in the state, potentially creating an incentive for opposing fans to act egregiously and under the guise of being aligned with a state school in order to prompt suspensions against UO or OSU coaches and athletic directors.

The University of Oregon and the Pit Crew, Oregon’s student section, issued apologies for the incident, which was condemned by then-Oregon Gov. Kate Brown, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox and then-interim UO president Patrick Phillips. Mullens and Lanning also apologized and condemned the incident.

Government overreach hits home! Crazy

That’s an insane bill