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« on: March 03, 2020, 03:34:09 PM »

Damn, I hate the time shift between Europe and America. Will only learn the results tomorrow early in the morning.

Living on the West Coast is actually pretty great for election watching as even when it’s close like 2016 , the election is called before Midnight (was called somewhere between 11-12 our local time ). Even in 2004 , if you watched NBC Bush had 269 EV by around that same time . My dad said He was flipping between NBC and PBS during the 2004 election and NBC called Ohio for Bush around 11-11:30 our local time  and at 269 he said you could basically call the election for Bush since the Republicans held the house
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2020, 03:41:33 PM »

Damn, I hate the time shift between Europe and America. Will only learn the results tomorrow early in the morning.

Living on the West Coast is actually pretty great.


Only if you are living in the Pacific Northwest , or San Diego Tongue


LA and San Fran are way to expensive to live in
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2020, 03:42:27 PM »

Damn, I hate the time shift between Europe and America. Will only learn the results tomorrow early in the morning.

Living on the West Coast is actually pretty great for election watching as even when it’s close like 2016 , the election is called before Midnight (was called somewhere between 11-12 our local time ). Even in 2004 , if you watched NBC Bush had 269 EV by around that same time . My dad said He was flipping between NBC and PBS during the 2004 election and NBC called Ohio for Bush around 11-11:30 our local time  and at 269 he said you could basically call the election for Bush since the Republicans held the house

It's terrible for sports watching though.  The NBA games start around 4-5 PM and MNF/TNF is at 6 PM.

Well Blazers games usually start at 7-7:30 PM so I don’t mind at all and finals games usually start at 5:30-6 which is a pretty good time too .


The way the NBA is as well , it’s really only games In The Western Conference that really matters anyway as with the exception of 1 maybe 2 teams , the Eastern Conference sucks. Many years it’s not even one team that is great lol
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2020, 04:13:35 PM »

Damn, I hate the time shift between Europe and America. Will only learn the results tomorrow early in the morning.

Living on the West Coast is actually pretty great.


Only if you are living in the Pacific Northwest , or San Diego Tongue


LA and San Fran are way to expensive to live in
SF yes. LA (minus a few super-elite areas) is actually on par with Portland, Seattle, and San Diego.

You said you used to live in Oregon , which parts . Was it Bend given you know a lot about that area and you said you thought Mt Bachelor > Mt Hood
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2020, 07:31:22 PM »

Biden wins NC at poll closing time !!!!
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2020, 07:59:07 PM »

Doesnt Cenk being at TYT show that he knows he will lose lol
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2020, 11:58:47 PM »

Is the vote in CA just early
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2020, 03:25:53 PM »

Democrats outvoted Republicans by around 1.5 million in TX in 2008 , and won Collin by an even large margin in the primary than this year so this is a terrible comparison.


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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2020, 03:32:52 PM »

Democrats outvoted Republicans by around 1.5 million in TX in 2008 , and won Collin by an even large margin in the primary than this year so this is a terrible comparison.




This is the future baseline for Texas. Accept the trends. Accept them!


Trends don’t equal destiny and it’s high time you learn that . By the 2030s the map and party coalitions will look completely different than today and what trends are showing to cause the fact is the GOP just cannot win without TX and will adapt to reverse trends in  TX or make gains on the coasts which by the way would help in TX too


If Dems win this year , that gives the TX GOP an opportunity to reverse trends
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2020, 03:37:46 PM »

Democrats outvoted Republicans by around 1.5 million in TX in 2008 , and won Collin by an even large margin in the primary than this year so this is a terrible comparison.
We could actually flip Collin this year. It might even be likely. Denton is probably another cycle away, though.


Unless this is another 1980 Collin won’t flip
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2020, 04:07:33 PM »

Democrats outvoted Republicans by around 1.5 million in TX in 2008 , and won Collin by an even large margin in the primary than this year so this is a terrible comparison.
We could actually flip Collin this year. It might even be likely. Denton is probably another cycle away, though.

Unless this is another 1980 Collin won’t flip

2012 election in Collin County, TX: R+31.5
2016 election in Collin County, TX: R+16.7
Swing: D+14.8

It isn't the most likely scenario, but a 17 point swing in Collin isn't impossible. It swung almost 15 points last time, and it is growing faster than almost anywhere else in the country with new residents probably being 70-30 Dem.

I could see at best see a 5 point deficit and most of that swing is already baked in and new residents at most would provide another 4-5 point swing and my prediction is a 7 point Dem swing there
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2020, 04:13:59 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2020, 04:17:36 PM by Old School Republican »

Democrats outvoted Republicans by around 1.5 million in TX in 2008 , and won Collin by an even large margin in the primary than this year so this is a terrible comparison.
We could actually flip Collin this year. It might even be likely. Denton is probably another cycle away, though.

Unless this is another 1980 Collin won’t flip

2012 election in Collin County, TX: R+31.5
2016 election in Collin County, TX: R+16.7
Swing: D+14.8

It isn't the most likely scenario, but a 17 point swing in Collin isn't impossible. It swung almost 15 points last time, and it is growing faster than almost anywhere else in the country with new residents probably being 70-30 Dem.

I could see at best see a 5 point deficit and most of that swing is already baked in and new residents at most would provide another 4-5 point swing and my prediction is a 7 point Dem swing there

Again you provide no evidence to support your proclamations


Lmao And neither do you except use an extremely extremely lazy analysis of trends and lmao using 2018 and instead of 2016 the baseline on where to start.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2020, 04:20:06 PM »

Democrats outvoted Republicans by around 1.5 million in TX in 2008 , and won Collin by an even large margin in the primary than this year so this is a terrible comparison.
We could actually flip Collin this year. It might even be likely. Denton is probably another cycle away, though.

Unless this is another 1980 Collin won’t flip

2012 election in Collin County, TX: R+31.5
2016 election in Collin County, TX: R+16.7
Swing: D+14.8

It isn't the most likely scenario, but a 17 point swing in Collin isn't impossible. It swung almost 15 points last time, and it is growing faster than almost anywhere else in the country with new residents probably being 70-30 Dem.

I could see at best see a 5 point deficit and most of that swing is already baked in and new residents at most would provide another 4-5 point swing and my prediction is a 7 point Dem swing there

Again you provide no evidence to support your proclamations


Lmao And neither do you except use an extremely extremely lazy analysis of trends and lmao using 2018 and instead of 2016 the baseline on where to start.

My basis is much more on conventional wisdom most of main stream media and pundits use

It is, but Collin is a special case (like GA), where trends outweigh conventional midterm-presidential swings and we can expect each election to be to the left of the one prior.

Not really , Republican turnout was not that high in 2018 or those Collin numbers wouldn’t look as impressive .

I would use Trump 2016 vs Beto 2018 as the starting line then not Cruz vs Beto .  


Another thing you have to take into account is the fact that in senate races the candidate can tailor their campaign for just one state while For the Presidential race they aren’t able to do that .
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E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2020, 04:26:13 PM »

Democrats outvoted Republicans by around 1.5 million in TX in 2008 , and won Collin by an even large margin in the primary than this year so this is a terrible comparison.
We could actually flip Collin this year. It might even be likely. Denton is probably another cycle away, though.

Unless this is another 1980 Collin won’t flip

2012 election in Collin County, TX: R+31.5
2016 election in Collin County, TX: R+16.7
Swing: D+14.8

It isn't the most likely scenario, but a 17 point swing in Collin isn't impossible. It swung almost 15 points last time, and it is growing faster than almost anywhere else in the country with new residents probably being 70-30 Dem.

I could see at best see a 5 point deficit and most of that swing is already baked in and new residents at most would provide another 4-5 point swing and my prediction is a 7 point Dem swing there

Again you provide no evidence to support your proclamations


Lmao And neither do you except use an extremely extremely lazy analysis of trends and lmao using 2018 and instead of 2016 the baseline on where to start.

My basis is much more on conventional wisdom most of main stream media and pundits use

It is, but Collin is a special case (like GA), where trends outweigh conventional midterm-presidential swings and we can expect each election to be to the left of the one prior.

Not really , Republican turnout was not that high in 2018 or those Collin numbers wouldn’t look as impressive .

I would use Trump 2016 vs Beto 2018 as the starting line then not Cruz vs Beto . 




Lmao it absolutely was high. It was on par with 2016!

No it wasn’t , and % of electorate is always a super misleading stat .

How about this if Trump wins Collin by more than 5 or 6 points , you will put in your sig that Trends do not equal destiny and Say OSR was right about Texas  for 3 months while if he wins Collin by less than  that  I will put Trends Are Real in my sig and say I was wrong for 3 months in my sig


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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2020, 05:10:03 PM »

I agree that we should consider Beto a high-water mark for Dems in suburban Texas for now, not a point on an endless upward line.

Why on earth would we assume that when Trump is polling worse than Cruz did? People also assumed Clinton ‘16 was the high water mark in the Texas suburbs because only something about Cruz winning back Never Trumpers or something. Look how that turned out.


By your logic the Rust Belt should have been Likely R in 2012
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2020, 07:03:02 PM »

How many of Bernie's 2016 support though came more due to the anti-Hillary factor rather than people actually liking Bernie. I think much of his WWC support was a lot in factor because people just didnt like Hillary.

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