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« on: September 21, 2021, 05:33:03 PM »

I want to take a moment to appreciate the brilliance of Tina Kotek here.

Her grand bargain immediately put an end to all Republican obstruction. Oregon's legislature had its first normal session in three years, able to freely pass bills for the first time since 2018.

Regardless of what actually happens today, one thing is clear: the Democrats got literally everything they wanted, and in return gave up nothing.

The Oregon Republicans completely disarmed themselves yet have absolutely nothing to show for it.

Savage? absolutely. Scummy? probably. Worth it? definitely. IT'S THE ART OF THE DEAL

(also it's worth noting, referendums will certainly pass in 2022 to disarm the entire GOP obstruction arsenal, they will soon find themselves powerless regardless of the precise outcome of the legislative maps)

Oregon Democrats have absolutely destroyed this state and no are gonna have free reign to further destroy it. Republicans shouldnt have caved
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2021, 12:40:57 PM »

Lol at the idea Oregon democrats are awesome . They have completely driven this state into the ground and Oregon republicans with their gross incompetence have basically enabled them to do so .
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2021, 01:38:29 PM »

Lol at the idea Oregon democrats are awesome . They have completely driven this state into the ground and Oregon republicans with their gross incompetence have basically enabled them to do so .
How is Oregon "into the ground"? Seems to be doing pretty well.

We are literally ranked in the low 40s in high school graduation:

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2019/01/oregon-generated-second-worst-graduation-rate-in-us-in-2017.html


We rank 49th in relative median income:



https://blog.stewart.com/stewart/2021/05/14/the-richest-and-poorest-states-in-america-before-and-after-comparative-cost-of-living-adjustments/


We have the 4th highest rate of homelessness in the nation: https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-ranks-4th-in-homelessness-study-finds

Violent Crime is exploding in Portland which traditionally was a low crime city: https://www.kptv.com/news/unheard-of-to-see-a-homicide-rate-go-up-as-much-as-it-has-criminology/article_597c7f30-c987-11eb-b001-5f35f7a8f5be.html


Rank in the bottom 10 in pension management: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/10/15/every-states-pension-crisis-ranked/40302439/



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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2021, 03:28:08 PM »

Lol at the idea Oregon democrats are awesome . They have completely driven this state into the ground and Oregon republicans with their gross incompetence have basically enabled them to do so .
How is Oregon "into the ground"? Seems to be doing pretty well.

We are literally ranked in the low 40s in high school graduation:

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2019/01/oregon-generated-second-worst-graduation-rate-in-us-in-2017.html


We rank 49th in relative median income:



https://blog.stewart.com/stewart/2021/05/14/the-richest-and-poorest-states-in-america-before-and-after-comparative-cost-of-living-adjustments/


Oregon ranks #21 in MHI according to this site at $62,800

https://www.careerinfonet.org/rank_median_income.asp?printer=true&soccode=&stfips=47&id=&nodeid=12

Oregon ranks #27 in MHI using the Statistical Atlas numbers at $53.3k:

https://statisticalatlas.com/United-States/Household-Income#figure/state

It looks like the chart you presented adjusts MHI based upon the Cost of Living...

If so that is surely more a factor with the lack of affordable housing in many parts of the state, which quite frankly has very little to do with the Democratic Government in the state and much more to do with banks and building companies priorities, and quite possibly the reality that since the Great Recession there has been very little investment nationally in building new affordable housing.

One could make a strong argument that the high rates of homelessness are also closely correlated with the lack of affordable housing, and again very little to do with the Democratic Gvt in Salem.


The issue is extremely strict zoning laws and democrats inability to ever consider housing supply when crafting housing policy .
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E: 3.42, S: 2.61

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2021, 05:01:00 PM »

Lol at the idea Oregon democrats are awesome . They have completely driven this state into the ground and Oregon republicans with their gross incompetence have basically enabled them to do so .
How is Oregon "into the ground"? Seems to be doing pretty well.

We are literally ranked in the low 40s in high school graduation:

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2019/01/oregon-generated-second-worst-graduation-rate-in-us-in-2017.html


We rank 49th in relative median income:



https://blog.stewart.com/stewart/2021/05/14/the-richest-and-poorest-states-in-america-before-and-after-comparative-cost-of-living-adjustments/


Oregon ranks #21 in MHI according to this site at $62,800

https://www.careerinfonet.org/rank_median_income.asp?printer=true&soccode=&stfips=47&id=&nodeid=12

Oregon ranks #27 in MHI using the Statistical Atlas numbers at $53.3k:

https://statisticalatlas.com/United-States/Household-Income#figure/state

It looks like the chart you presented adjusts MHI based upon the Cost of Living...

If so that is surely more a factor with the lack of affordable housing in many parts of the state, which quite frankly has very little to do with the Democratic Government in the state and much more to do with banks and building companies priorities, and quite possibly the reality that since the Great Recession there has been very little investment nationally in building new affordable housing.

One could make a strong argument that the high rates of homelessness are also closely correlated with the lack of affordable housing, and again very little to do with the Democratic Gvt in Salem.


The issue is extremely strict zoning laws and democrats inability to ever consider housing supply when crafting housing policy .

You say this like Republicans are offering thoughtful reforms to housing and land use law.

There are IMO certain aspects of land use in Oregon which are genuinely revolutionary--thinking in particular of urban growth boundaries, which are really great policy and lay the foundations for excellent transit and high density growth. (And aren't necessarily an issue for affordability if you combine them with thoughtful policy like increased public housing and allowing duplexes, apartment buildings, etc.)

I am not saying Oregon Republicans are good either and in fact blame them through their incompetence and idiocy for defacto enabling Progressives to have carte blanche to ruin this state.

In fact , one of the people's most responsible for this housing calamity was Republican Governor Tom McCall for the land use laws he implemented.
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