California 'Hell-Hole' to Run $7 Billion Budget Surplus

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California is a boom bust state , during good economic times it has surpluses and during bad it not only has deficits but massive ones .


Happened in the early 80s, early 90s , early 2000s and from 2008-2012 .

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Are there any conservative states that have a surplus? It's amazing that blue avatars are finding a way to turn a surplus into a negative. California has problems, but it still is more fiscally sound than other states with lots more jobs.

https://www.mercatus.org/publications/urban-economics/state-fiscal-rankings

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California was an ungovernable mess in 2010, and everyone admitted that. What changed since then is that the state had Democratic governors and Democrats obtained supermajorities in the legislature and consequently were free to raise taxes and apply their policies.

Actually no , what changed was that the 2/3 rule for passing budgets was eliminated along with power to pass certain types of ballot measures was reduced as well. 

The CA ballot measure system and the 2/3 budget rule is what made the state ungovernable

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Completely misleading for the reasons dead0man said. Also if it's so great how come there are homeless people everywhere and people leaving the state because they can't afford it. Not to mention the fact that Newsom has an approval rating in the 40s and the state legislature has an even worse approval rating than that.

The truth is we have massive bond debt and a massive pension problem that gets overlooked because muh surplus.

Overall the state isn't a hellhole. However major cities have a tendency to be, because they are filled with homeless people living on the street. I no longer take BART in the bay area because you're likely to get robbed or a homeless person will be pissing on the train. It's not a great place to live. Although there are still some good areas.

I don't know how anyone can look at the past years of democratic control in California and come away with the thought that yeah this has been good we're doing great.

The homeless people are there because the weather is good enough and the cities aren't complete a-holes to them...because of course, lots of homeless are simply those evicted out, and not the druggies that you and Smiling John seem to lurve portraying them all as.

Also it's very f*(king easy to praise Dem control after seeing the walking disaster things were when Der Sperminator was in charge, or the 16 years of prison build-up under Duke and Wilson.

But you have a point, I think it was Dem controlled and Dem majority even in the 70's when the DINOs crossed over to Jarvis and put through the most monstrous proposition ever passed. And boy howdy could so have been done if not for those tax freezes

Um no CA was at its peak after those 16 years of Republican control and hasn't recovered from those 5 disastrous Davis years.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-dec-14-mn-54020-story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/wilson010299.htm

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Just going to conclude before I go play some computer games after taking off early for the weekend that it is particularly adorable to see California conservatives b**** and moan about what a horrible socialist it managed hellscape thirst aid is.

California conserva tards - - I hate California! The price of housing is immense. Taxes are high. Democrats have ruined this state!

Everyone else - - ok, the road to Oklahoma or Arkansas is that way. Need help packing?

Conserva tards - - um, well.....

Texas> California

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Completely misleading for the reasons dead0man said. Also if it's so great how come there are homeless people everywhere and people leaving the state because they can't afford it. Not to mention the fact that Newsom has an approval rating in the 40s and the state legislature has an even worse approval rating than that.

The truth is we have massive bond debt and a massive pension problem that gets overlooked because muh surplus.

Overall the state isn't a hellhole. However major cities have a tendency to be, because they are filled with homeless people living on the street. I no longer take BART in the bay area because you're likely to get robbed or a homeless person will be pissing on the train. It's not a great place to live. Although there are still some good areas.

I don't know how anyone can look at the past years of democratic control in California and come away with the thought that yeah this has been good we're doing great.

The homeless people are there because the weather is good enough and the cities aren't complete a-holes to them...because of course, lots of homeless are simply those evicted out, and not the druggies that you and Smiling John seem to lurve portraying them all as.

Also it's very f*(king easy to praise Dem control after seeing the walking disaster things were when Der Sperminator was in charge, or the 16 years of prison build-up under Duke and Wilson.

But you have a point, I think it was Dem controlled and Dem majority even in the 70's when the DINOs crossed over to Jarvis and put through the most monstrous proposition ever passed. And boy howdy could so have been done if not for those tax freezes

Um no CA was at its peak after those 16 years of Republican control and hasn't recovered from those 5 disastrous Davis years.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-dec-14-mn-54020-story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/wilson010299.htm

I cannot add enough "ha"s after "hahaha" to properly and fully ridicule the notion that California's current economic situation is due to the influence of its sub anemic Republican party. What a hack and worshipping the altar of alternative facts take that is, osr.

Can you read my post again and the context of it  because what you said has absolutely nothing to do with what you just said

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Just going to conclude before I go play some computer games after taking off early for the weekend that it is particularly adorable to see California conservatives b**** and moan about what a horrible socialist it managed hellscape thirst aid is.

California conserva tards - - I hate California! The price of housing is immense. Taxes are high. Democrats have ruined this state!

Everyone else - - ok, the road to Oklahoma or Arkansas is that way. Need help packing?

Conserva tards - - um, well.....

Texas> California

In terms of obesity, people without health insurance coverage, High School Dropout rates, sub proficiency scores in math, science, English, bad highways, executions, oh, and to their advantage fossil fuel deposits. Sure.

On pretty much everything else that matters, except in your eyes electing Republicans to Statewide government, Texas is clearly horribly behind California

LMAO


Texas unemployment is lower than California, cost of living is much lower, homelessness is lower, taxes are lower etc. So yes Texas> California


And I am a supporter of the Death Penalty so California effectively abolishing the death penealty is not a positive to me

[OSR stands with Israel]

Just going to conclude before I go play some computer games after taking off early for the weekend that it is particularly adorable to see California conservatives b**** and moan about what a horrible socialist it managed hellscape thirst aid is.

California conserva tards - - I hate California! The price of housing is immense. Taxes are high. Democrats have ruined this state!

Everyone else - - ok, the road to Oklahoma or Arkansas is that way. Need help packing?

Conserva tards - - um, well.....

Texas> California

In terms of obesity, people without health insurance coverage, High School Dropout rates, sub proficiency scores in math, science, English, bad highways, executions, oh, and to their advantage fossil fuel deposits. Sure.

On pretty much everything else that matters, except in your eyes electing Republicans to Statewide government, Texas is clearly horribly behind California

I am certainly no defender of Texas, but every cited educational deficiency seems to be made up based on stereotypes. The high school graduation rate is effectively at the upper quartile of US states whereas California is at the lower quartile.

As far as test scores, Texas is considered 'significantly above' the national average for both average and number of proficient students for mathematics and science. California is considered 'significantly below' in both subjects. Both are considered 'significantly below' for English. All subjects seems to have a very obvious north/south divide except for when Texas bucks the trend.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/

Badger will just dismiss those facts " as made up stats by right wing think tanks"

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As someone who lives in a state that has been run by the Democrats for Decades, the idea that Democrats are good on education is hillarious. They have completely and utterly destroyed the education system of my state that after decades of Democatic rule this is the result:

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2019/01/oregon-generated-second-worst-graduation-rate-in-us-in-2017.html

(Kate Brown and our local media hit this report until after the election): https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2018/10/kate_brown_appointee_delays_sc.html

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2019/09/oregon-schools-deliver-worst-test-scores-in-5-years.html

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Conservatives label CA a hell hole because of demographics and nothing else. You never hear them complain about quality of life in WV, KY, OK, KS, ect.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/948436/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1949209/posts?q=1&;page=1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952705/posts

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Are we really comparing California to places Republicans ran to the ground like Kansas, Oklahoma, and Kentucky?

Comparing those states is extremely disingenuous in every way .


If you wanna compete California to any state , compare it to Texas and Texas is clearly better